John Deere Blitz Black paint

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Is it considered to be good paint?
 
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Is a specific primer needed?
 
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Is reducer needed?
 
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How many coats are needed?
 
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Does it apply like paint?
 
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Would a clearcoat adhere to it?
 
  
 
==Summary==
 
==Summary==
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John Deere Blitz Black is enamel paint manufactured by John Deere for painting farm equipment. It's popular among hotrodders because it provides the flat or suede look of "rat" or "traditional" hot rods, with a durable finish. It's weatherproof, and blocks UV light, where a bare primer would soak up water and oils. It's also considerably less expensive than typical paints used on hot rods.
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John Deere Blitz Black is enamel paint manufactured by Valspar Paint for John Deere for the purpose of painting tractors and farm equipment. It's popular among hotrodders for the following reasons:
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*It's inexpensive.
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*It has a reputation for extreme durability.
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*It provides the look of a primered "rat" or "traditional" hot rod (described as: "flat clear", "suede", "satin", or "semi-gloss").
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*It's easy to touch up.
  
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Although John Deer Blitz Black paint can be applied with typical paint equipment, John Deere recommends using their own primer and reducer. The paint and the primer are typically $20-25 dollars, and the reducer is about $15. They are also sold in spray can size, so you can experiment with various primered or bare metal surfaces.
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Although John Deere Blitz Black paint can be applied with typical materials, John Deere recommends using their own primer and reducer. The paint and the primer are typically around $30 for a gallon, and the reducer is about $15 for a quart. JDBB products also come in spray cans.
  
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==Photographs of JDBB paint jobs==
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==Application==
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#If the existing paint isn't peeling or doesn't have large amounts of [[rust]], then no [[Epoxy primer|primer]] is necessary. [[Sand]] with extra fine grit sand paper, wipe with a clean cloth and apply JDBB paint.
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#Final gloss depends heavily on how well the paint is mixed (better to over mix then under mix).
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#For spraying with an HVLP gun, use a 1.4 or 1.5 tip.
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#If a primer is needed, JDBB primer is recommended (it's available in spray cans, quarts, and gallons). Wait 36 hours after applying primer to apply paint.
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#John Deere thinner is needed, at a mix ratio of 8 parts JDBB paint:1 part John Deere thinner (The Blitz Black can recommends a mix ratio of 10:1 paint to thinner).
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#For faster-drying and harder paint, John Deere hardener can be used. It's available in pints. When using the hardener, the mix ratio is 8 parts JDBB paint:1 part John Deere thinner:1 part John Deere hardener.
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#Spray one light tack coat, wait 10-15 minutes, then shoot the full wet coat.
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#Wait no longer than 3 hours to apply a second coat. However, one coat with the 8:1:1 paint-thinner-hardener ratio should be adequate.
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#A gallon will easily cover a small car.
  
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==Can you paint over John Deere Blitz Black paint?==
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According to John Deere, yes, you can paint over JDBB paint with another coat of primer and/or enamel paint.
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However, the wording of the above statement is disputed. While you "can" paint over JDBB paint, it should be done with implement paint only, as a 2K primer, base coat, or urethane single stage will strip. Any enamel (acrylic or alkyd) would likely work. If the paint was activated with a high-enough solids activator '''and''' then sat long enough, it may be possible to shoot a urethane single stage over it, and you '''may''' be able to use a urethane primer if careful. For more information, see: [http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/good-hot-rod-mag-aproved-paint-must-read-128119-3.html#post888190 Hotrodders Bulletin Board forum post].
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==Notes==
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*Striping of the paint is thought to be caused by the reducer drying too fast. To eliminate striping, some people recommend using regular enamel reducer instead of the John Deere reducer for a slower evaporation rate.
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*Hold the gun at a 90 degree angle to the surface and keep a 50% overlap.
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*If striping (tiger striping) becomes noticeable individuals have reported success by spraying less paint per pass and using a lot of overlap (90% overlap) and switching directions on each coat (horizontal then vertical).
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*John Deere Blitz Black paint can't be applied to high heat areas such as engine blocks, headers, or pipes. Also, it will not retard rust.
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*Some people report success applying it to [[Fiberglassing|fiberglass]].
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*Urethane primer or epoxy primer may also be viable as undercoats for JDBB paint.
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*Some say that JDBB paint is subject to fading and chalking over the years.
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*Opinions are mixed on using a clear coat over JDBB. Some say that it can be applied if a flattening agent is used. For a glossy look, wet sanding and buffing are recommended.
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==Part numbers==
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Part numbers may vary for different regions. California has been specifically mentioned as a place where JDBB may be difficult to obtain, or may be sold under a different part number.
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*John Deere Blitz Black paint: TY25669 (Formerly TY6416)
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*John Deere Primer: TY25659 (Formerly TY6457)
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*John Deere Reducer: TY25650 (Formerly PT158)
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*John Deere Hardener: REN3001 (makes it much more durable)
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Additional part numbers/updates:
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*Low VOC Blitz Black paint: TY25825 (1 gal), TY25826 (1 qt)
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*Regular Blitz Black paint (not Low VOC): TY25642 (1 qt)
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*Buff Primer-Sealer: TY25659 (1 gal), TY25649 (1 qt)
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*Regular Reducer (not Low VOC, not Fast Drying): TY25650 (1 gal), TY25652 (1 qt)
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==Where to get John Deere Blitz Black paint==
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*[http://dealerlocator.deere.com/servlet/DealerLocator?command=home&locator=3&selectLocale=en_US&sessionId=Rgf865DJYGDkmUUhinR1QMN John Deere dealer locator]
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*[http://www.shopgreendealer.com/search.aspx?find=blitz+black The Green Dealer]
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==Photographs of John Deere Blitz Black paint jobs==
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The Hotrodders Bulletin Board has photographs of John Deere Blitz Black paint jobs on these pages:
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-3.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 3]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-6.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 6]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-10.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 10]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-14.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 14]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-15.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 15]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-16.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 16]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-17.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 17]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-19.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 18]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-20.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 20]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-21.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 21]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-22.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 22]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-23.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 23]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-24.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 24]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-25.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 25]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-27.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 27]
  
 
==Alternatives to John Deere Blitz Black paint==
 
==Alternatives to John Deere Blitz Black paint==
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*Asphalt (#MQ2818) with Egg Shell clear coat (#P-FKT600)and , produced by [http://www.color-rite.com Color-Rite].
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*Black [[epoxy primer]].
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*[http://www.colorrite.com/product_info.php?cPath=0&products_id=160 Asphalt] (#2818) with [http://www.colorrite.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=981 Egg Shell clear coat] (#P-FKT600), produced by [http://www.color-rite.com Color-Rite].
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*[http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/default.asp?sid=65395&pid=435 U-Tech E360 Series Epoxy Primer/Sealer], from  [http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/ Akzo Nobel Car Refinishes] under the U-Tech brand.
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*[http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/products.asp?sid=65392&bid=1&cid=424&plid=386&pid=9238 Sikkens Autocryl Rally Black] (#3418), from [http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/ Akzo Nobel Car Refinishes] under the [http://www.sikkens.net Sikkens] brand.
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*[http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/dpc/en/us/html/color/hh/hh_HotRodBlack_color.html DuPont Hot Hues Hot Rod Black].
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*Epoxy primer, followed by JDBB primer and JDBB paint.
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*[http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflatz.aspx Hot Rod Flatz]
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*[http://www.autopaintdirect.com/rat.html Valspar Rat Rod Black]
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*[http://www.kirkerautomotive.com/html/hot_rod_black.html Kirker Hot Rod Black]
  
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==Related articles==
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*[[Cheapo paint job]]
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*[[First paint job]]
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*[[Epoxy primer]]
  
 
== References ==
 
== References ==
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993.html Hotrodders Bulletin Board discussion]
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*[http://www.valspar.com Valspar.com]
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993.html John Deere Blitz Black], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', January 12, 2004.
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*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/help-i-need-paint-94092.html I need paint], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', July 19, 2006.
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