Editing User talk:Jon

Want to leave me a message? Just click edit, and type it in below. At the end of your message, please include the following text as your "signature": <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. It will automatically get converted to your signature, including your name and the date. That's two dashes, followed by four [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde#Tilde_with_keyboards tilde characters]. Thanks! --[[User:Jon|Jon]] 17:33, 10 July 2009 (MDT) ==New spambots== Jon... we seem to have a major spam bot attack [[User:Crosley|Crosley]] 06:23, 4 May 2011 (MDT) :Thanks, looking into this. --[[User:Jon|Jon]] 09:28, 4 May 2011 (MDT) ::'''also....''' I now see how to locate this talk page for you. Link was right in front of me... it is rough getting worn out , old and being a tech idiot :::No problem, that's an easy one to miss. A user page is for info about the user ("Hi, I'm Jon...", etc.), and the user "Talk" page is for discussions with the user. It's definitely very different from a discussion forum. --[[User:Jon|Jon]] 10:10, 5 May 2011 (MDT) Jon, I have been watching the "who's online'' page. I see user names that were banned some weeks back. I guess the spam bots can visit , but no posting. [[User:Crosley|Crosley]] 22:34, 8 August 2011 (MDT) :Interesting, thanks, I'll look into that. I made another adjustment today that should cut down on the spam bots, but we'll see.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 23:01, 8 August 2011 (MDT) ==Category tags removed== Jon ... I have noticed on some edits I make to articles, there seems to be some parts of the articles that disappear without me doing it. Recent edit on "Thermostats Explained" as an example. I removed some words in ALL CAPS. A few days later I notice the listing tags at the bottom of the page had disappeared. The tags that would place the article in "good article" list and the "cooling" tag for that list, both had disappeared. This will happen when I am on the Mac Mini with Safari browser. [[User:Crosley|Crosley]] 22:49, 30 September 2011 (MDT) :That's strange; if you look under that page's "history" tab, there's [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/index.php?title=Thermostats_Explained&diff=19574&oldid=17324 this edit], which shows you as having fixed the all caps, and deleting the category tags. Browser glitch maybe?--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 22:59, 30 September 2011 (MDT) Jon... that is the edit that caught my eye on the disappearing category tags. I would not remove the tags from an article unless it was an obvious item that needed attention. I went back later and corrected(I thought) the article till I saw cobalt327 added back another category tag I edited an article weeks back (I forget which one)... I then recheck my edits and about 3 paragraphs had disappeared below grammar and spelling corrections I had made. Perhaps a glitch in Mac software I guess. I am a tech idiot. [[User:Crosley|Crosley]] 07:26, 1 October 2011 (MDT) Jon, I appreciate your article on keeping your stove bolt in your hotrod! I purchased a 1948 chevy fleetmaster last fall. I drove it home and it is original except the orange paint. It needs some body work but it is not bad at all. I have been strugglin back and forth with keepin the stove bolt 216 or swappin out with a small block. I have wrestled with it because I plan to make this an everyday driver. It was this week infact that I decided I wanted to keep the stove bolt but It needs the babbit bearings replace and I hope to do that this winter. I need advice on how to go about it. I am working out of my garage on my home so this is a shade tree machanic here. No lifts or all the goodies found in a speed shop. I also want to go to double or triple carbs and dual exhaust. I agree this is a cool way to go but my only concern is right now is 55 mph seems to be the max this old girl wants to put out. By the way Dewey here from Iowa '''Jon..''' Coblat327 did some editing on the main page. The driveshaft link he added does not look correct when I clik on it. I may be incorrect and I am not gonna try any edit myself. [[User:Crosley|Crosley]] 15:10, 29 January 2012 (MST) :OK, thanks, I fixed it. That link color is for links to pages for which there is no content. When a new category is created, if there's no text on the category page, links to it will show in that color. I added "Driveshaft articles." to that page, so now the link is the correct color.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 15:52, 29 January 2012 (MST) ::'''Jon''', I thought when I finished the "Driveshaft measurements" page that it was linking to the new "Driveshaft" category correctly- I added "Category:Driveshaft" inside two brackets to the page to link it to the title page. Did I not do this correctly? I clicked on "Driveshaft" before I logged out and it was showing the "Driveshaft measurements" page then... unless that was due to what you did. :::It's tricky with categories. On the wiki, you can create a link to a page by enclosing a word in double brackets. If the page already exists, the bracketed word gets turned into a link to the page, in blue link color, like this: [[Rust]]. If the page '''does not''' already exist, the bracketed word gets turned into a link to a blank page, in red color, like this: [[How to change your blinker fluid]]. You can click on the red link, and start editing a page from there (some people use this method to start a new article). For example, you can click on your username in red text on this page, and start making your user page. Now, when you start a new category, even if you put pages in the category, the category page itself is blank, so the link shows as red. So, you have to add any text to the category page, like: "Driveshaft articles.", and then links to that category will turn blue. However, the category will still work fine, even if it's a red-link. Here's another example of a page with a bunch of red, undeveloped links: [[Quadrajet]].--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:10, 30 January 2012 (MST) ==Using this talk page== BTW- Would it be better to add new responses to this page at the top so it would be the first seen, or continue to add to the bottom, or does this page get refreshed every so often? And should I even be using this page or is there a preferred way of messaging you other than this page?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 05:09, 30 January 2012 (MST) :This is the preferred method of messaging me about wiki issues. I get a notification when someone alters my talk page, so it's easy to stay updated.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:03, 30 January 2012 (MST) ==Uploading photos== '''Jon''' Is it possible to upload photos from my gallery at Hotrodders to the 'Upload file' page or does it have to come from my computer? Is using the 'Upload file' page the best/only way to get a photo into a CC Wiki article? I still struggle w/the formatting... Kudos to Crosley for dealing w/all the BS that finds its way on to the Wiki. Never knew how much of it there was. Thanks, --[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 07:00, 30 January 2012 (MST) :No, you currently can't upload directly from the gallery at Hotrodders.com. Of course, you can always download an image directly from the gallery to your computer (right-click on image, then choose "download file" or something like that), then upload from there. The image formatting is more complex, yes, but much more powerful. After a few dozen images or so, it becomes second nature. Be sure to check out the [[Help:Images|Image help section]] for details if you haven't already.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:03, 30 January 2012 (MST) '''Jon-''' I created this page- [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Six_cylinder_engine_parts_and_info_sites Six cylinder engine parts and sites]. I then saw a similar page on Chevy engines exists already (I had even contributed to it): [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Chevrolet_and_GMC_Inline_/_Straight_6_Engines:_Guides_and_Resources Chevrolet and GMC Inline / Straight 6 Engines: Guides and Resources]. The websites linked to are now the same in both, even though several have info on engines other than GM. Up to you if the newest page should remain. BTW, why do the two links above appear differently? The second link lacks the arrow icon thingy plus has a space after the link before the period that I didn't put there. Odd...--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 07:06, 1 February 2012 (MST) :It looks to me like we should scrap [[Six cylinder engine parts and info sites]]. Regarding links, the arrow indicates an "external" link, that points to an external website. ''However'', in this case, the "external" website is the wiki itself. The reason is that you can link to '''any''' page on the web in a wiki article, just by enclosing the url and the link text in single brackets, like this: :<nowiki>[http://www.google.com Google]</nowiki> becomes: [http://www.google.com Google]. :You can even use this same syntax to link to a wiki page, so this: <nowiki>[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/Rust Rust]</nowiki> becomes this: [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/Rust Rust]. :However, when linking to articles on the wiki, you can just enclose the article name in '''double'''-brackets, like this: <nowiki>[[Rust]]</nowiki>, which turns into this: [[Rust]]. So, for links within the wiki, use the double brackets. All other links use the single bracket method. See [[Help:Links]] for more details.---[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:19, 1 February 2012 (MST) Sounds OK to me, thanks.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 14:56, 1 February 2012 (MST) ==Consolidating similar subjects within a category== ===Regarding a proposed 'Camshaft' article:=== There's already a couple pages pertaining to some part of camshafts ([[Cam and compression ratio compatibility]] and [[Camshaft install tips and tricks]]) under the 'Engine' category. I want to do an article with an overview of how the camshaft works, along info on the different types of cams and why they came to be, etc. My question is, should this be a new category like what was done with 'Quadrajet carburetor', or should it be a page in 'Engine' like the two pages I mentioned above? Or is there a way to use a bullet list in the different categories, i.e.: (Engine category, under "C") *Camshaft page (either as a page containing the info I mentioned above like 'How the cam works', 'Types of cams', etc., or just used as a title with the actual pages below this not-linked title) **Cam and compression ratio compatibility page **Camshaft install tips and tricks page **Et cetera? There are other instances where this could put pages on a similar subject together under a heading- like : *RPO codes (containing an overview and possibly other info) **GM RPO build codes **General Motors build codes **More GM RPO codes There are actually many subjects that could be done this way, like firing orders of various engines that are listed separately, valve train components that are listed separately, reciprocating assembly components that are listed separately, etc. I would have tried this out on one subject to see what it looked like and how it performed, but I seem to be unable to edit the list of pages in the individual categories like 'Engine', etc. --[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 20:45, 18 February 2012 (MST) :I would just do it with subcategories. A category can be placed in a category, just like a page. If we have 3 camshaft articles, then that's enough to start a subcategory under Engine. Keep in mind that it's not carved in stone; we can easily adjust and re-categorize as necessary, and as the article base grows. The list of pages in individual categories is created automatically, and isn't normally editable. If you add a page to a category, it will appear in that list. If you add a category to a category, it will appear as a subcategory in that category. So, in this case, just add '''<nowiki>[[Category:Camshaft]]</nowiki>''' at the bottom of one of the camshaft articles. Then, click on the category link for Camshaft at the bottom of the resulting saved page. On ''that'' page, add '''<nowiki>[[Category:Engine]]</nowiki>''' at the bottom.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 21:00, 18 February 2012 (MST) ::Will the pages still remain visible in '''<nowiki>[[Category:Engine]]</nowiki>''' even if they are also used in a subcategory?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 22:50, 18 February 2012 (MST) ::OK, I see now what happens, and good that the pages are still visible under the Engine category as well as being contained in the subcategory. Thanks for your time.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 22:59, 18 February 2012 (MST) ==Editing Article categories on Main page== I was thinking about editing the categories to be seen as an alphabetized list instead of listed in a sentence [http://www.hotrodders.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/53181/cat/500/page/1 as seen here]. What are your thoughts on this? Ideally if this were to be done, there would be two or more columns so the entire list could be seen w/o scrolling. I have been unsuccessful finding a way to format it in this fashion- and I spent some considerable time and effort looking into it. Is there an easy way to have multiple columns on a page? Is there a way to alphabetize a list other than to do it "long hand", i.e. <nowiki>==B==</nowiki> <nowiki>*Body and exterior</nowiki> <nowiki>*Brakes</nowiki> et cetera?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 19:19, 24 February 2012 (MST) :I imagine this is possible; but not sure exactly how we'd best accomplish it on this wiki. I'll think about this.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 19:58, 25 February 2012 (MST) ==Wanting to list a PDF file or a link in a Wiki?== Jon, Went brain dead, I want to add a PDF file link to an article but can't remember how to do it. I know you sent it to me before but can't find out how to do it. Would you mind refreshing my brain and give me a how-to? Thanks, ED. :First, upload it. Then, you can link to it like this: '''<nowiki>[[Media:Filenamehere.pdf]]</nowiki>'''. If you're not sure of the copyright status of the pdf file, you can always just link to it like normal, without having to upload it to the wiki server.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 22:18, 25 February 2012 (MST) ==Redirect== I tried (unsuccessfully) to redirect an unwanted article title (or to be rid of it by whatever means) in the [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Category:Brakes Brakes] category. The article title I'd like gone (if this is possible) is [[Pressure brake bleeder set-up]]. I'd appreciate any help w/this.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 22:17, 28 February 2012 (MST) :OK, I deleted it.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 22:43, 28 February 2012 (MST) ==Incorrect listing== Noticed the article [[Building a 340 Buick engine]] is listed under “I”, not “B” in the Engines category.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 14:22, 4 March 2012 (MST) :Very weird. Looks like a bug relating to the fact that the article's original title ''did'' begin with an "I". Anyway, I deleted it; there was no content there.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 15:09, 4 March 2012 (MST) ==Templates== Is there a need for a template, "Needs confirmation", or is it better to add it (without it being a template) in parentheses or brackets at the end of the passage or item in question like has been the practice in the past? I'm talking about a template that would be added right after the sentence or paragraph in question rather than a template that was like <nowiki>{{needspics}}</nowiki> that flags an entire article. I'm sure you've seen this used in the Wikipedia before, like seen [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Citation_needed here, under Examples]]. Also, I saw the page 'Most linked-to templates' that has quite a few templates, but is there a complete list available?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 05:30, 5 March 2012 (MST) ==Recent changes tracking options== I'm unable to see changes made longer than 13 days ago. This is with having selected "Show last 500 changes in last 30 days", as well as hiding minor changes and hiding my own changes. Do you see the same thing? :I see the same thing. My guess is that we're hitting a limit of 500 changes, and that the page refuses to display more.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 10:10, 5 March 2012 (MST) ==Templates II== Is there a list of templates available, like are used in articles that are "works in progress" (like <nowiki>{{Youcanedit}}</nowiki>, etc.)?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 20:13, 8 March 2012 (MST) :All template names are preceded by '''Template:'''. So you can search for '''Template:''' and they'll all come up. You can also make a template if you like. Just start a new article, whose title begins with '''Template:'''. So, if you start a new article titled '''Template:whatever''', and save it, then you can insert that template into an article by typing '''<nowiki>{{whatever}}</nowiki>'''--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 21:48, 8 March 2012 (MST) ==Category lists== On the left side of all wiki pages there is no listing for Quadrajet carburetors under ''categories'' , the listing for it only appears on the Main Page. Can you correct this?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 09:20, 15 March 2012 (MDT) :Yes, I can correct that easily, that's set manually. Are we sure that we want that category listed there? Those are generally our main categories. If Quadrajet goes there, then there's justification to put various other categories there too--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 10:22, 15 March 2012 (MDT) ::If I had it to do over, I'd have subcategorized Q-jet carbs within the Engine category. Or I'd have used Carburetors as the category instead of Quadrajet carburetors. If possible, remove Rochester carburetors from the Main Page categories, and I'll just subcategorize it (could I just remove the Quadrajet carburetors category from the Main Page, along w/the directs to it from the Q-jet pages?).--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 10:35, 15 March 2012 (MDT) :::You should be able to alter the category structure to your liking (and then easily re-alter in the future). I'm not seeing the Quadrajet carburetors category on the main page. Of course there's no perfect categorization paradigm; we'll probably alter and tweak the categories forever. Also, the lower images on the homepage look weird. Almost as if they're smaller images, enlarged.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:24, 15 March 2012 (MDT) ::::I had probably already removed Quadrajet carburetors from the categories on the Main Page by the time you looked for it- it was there. I subcategorized Carburetors in the Engine category, then subbed Quadrajet carburetors to Carburetors. Looks OK like that to me. All the carb articles are still in the Engine category excepting the Q-jet articles. If need be I can easily return them all to the Engine category along w/having them subbed, but my thoughts were to keep it as-is for now and see what it "feels" like after a few days.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 12:16, 15 March 2012 (MDT) :::::Sounds good. The category structure on a very active wiki will be constantly in flux.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 14:42, 15 March 2012 (MDT) ==Images on Main Page== As for the lower row of images, strange they look distorted to you. Looks fine on my end, but I'll put them back as they were before. Are the top row of images OK?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 14:22, 15 March 2012 (MDT) :Alright, I think I know what happened. I had made those images a while back specifically for the homepage (not exactly sure why; possibly some formatting issue), and they're only ~112px tall: http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/images/4/49/Homethumb2.jpg . When they get stretched beyond that, they start to look strange. Yes, top row looks fine.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 14:40, 15 March 2012 (MDT) ==Spam== I ran across a bit of spam in [[Freeing a stuck engine]] by user 27.126.152.82. All I did was undo revision 21208 to revert to previous version before I edited the article. Don't know if this gets this user "the boot" or what, but thought I'd mention it.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 02:00, 18 March 2012 (MDT) :Sounds fine. Don't forget there's a difference between a revert (roll back to an exact, historical version), and an undo (undo specific changes). An undo isn't always possible or feasible.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:36, 18 March 2012 (MDT) ::"Undo" wasn't a wiki reference, per se. It was simply what I (thought) I did when I reverted back to a previous version. Make sense?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 19:15, 18 March 2012 (MDT) :::Ah, got it, thanks.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 19:38, 18 March 2012 (MDT) ==Articles to feature in newsletter and carousels== Not as easy as I had first thought. Here are two that might work, but I'll keep looking into this. In the meantime, the first two are relatively recent: *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/1940_Ford_Pickup_recessed_tail_lights 1940 Ford Pickup recessed tail lights] *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Adjusting_hydraulic_lifters Adjusting hydraulic lifters] The second pair are good articles IMHO, not that new though: *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Choosing_a_trailer Choosing a trailer] and *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Chrysler_Hemi_engine Chrysler Hemi engine]--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 08:08, 14 March 2012 (MDT) :Here are a few more to consider: :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Gear_ratio_check Gear ratio check] :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Metal_shaping Metal shaping] :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Mopar_tapered_axle_rear_brake_conversion Mopar tapered axle rear brake conversion] :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Pilot_bearing_and_bushings Pilot bearing and bushings] (still have photos to format) :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Rust_removal_with_Ospho Rust removal with Ospho] :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Narrowing_a_rearend Narrowing a rearend] :--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 22:08, 18 March 2012 (MDT) ::And ::*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/T-350_transmission_rebuild_tech T-350 tranny rebuild tech]--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 14:39, 19 March 2012 (MDT) :::Also :::*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Hot_rodding_the_HEI_distributor Hotrodding the HEI distributor]--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 05:18, 24 March 2012 (MDT) ::::I've finished going through the pages in the Best articles category. The above articles are at this time what I'd consider the most eligeble. Do you want to continue adding to this as articles are submitted/edited?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 04:07, 27 March 2012 (MDT) :::::Yes, definitely continue adding. I've already featured some of the above, and many of them are older articles. I'm looking for something fresh, with good pics.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 10:21, 27 March 2012 (MDT) ==File list use guidelines== Where can I find guidelines for using files that have been previously uploaded by other members (specifically, images)? So far I've been contacting active members through the Hotrodders forum PM system.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 11:46, 28 March 2012 (MDT) :What specifically are you trying to find out?--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 13:19, 28 March 2012 (MDT) ::If permission is needed before using an image and if so how to best go about getting it.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 13:26, 28 March 2012 (MDT) :::I would think you're probably good to go. If an image was uploaded to the wiki, and its copyright status is legitimate, it should be fine to use it in any article (I'm sure you've noticed on Wikipedia how the same images are used in different articles). What's the image?--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 13:41, 28 March 2012 (MDT) ::::[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/File:Sanding-blocks.jpg Sanding blocks], I used it in the buffing article its now linked to. BTW, I already contacted Irelands child for permission, which he gave...--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 13:57, 28 March 2012 (MDT) :::::OK, I think that's fine.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 16:37, 30 March 2012 (MDT) ==Suspicious file== Ran across this file in my travels...[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/File:HCG_Drops,_HCG_Weight_loss_4778.jpg Spam?]--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 14:52, 31 March 2012 (MDT) :Yes, thanks, deleted it.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 21:11, 31 March 2012 (MDT) ==Signing entries== Jon, it was my understanding that entries are to be signed. Is this a rule, or a suggestion?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 13:39, 1 April 2012 (MDT)--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 13:46, 1 April 2012 (MDT) ==Deleting images== I have some images I want to delete (duplicates, a couple that have copyright issues, some that were uploaded w/o proper formatting on my end, etc.). I do not see a way to do this, can you point me to where I can find info on this?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 13:46, 1 April 2012 (MDT)

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