Editing User talk:Jon

Want to leave me a message? Just click edit, and type it in below. At the end of your message, please include the following text as your "signature": <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. It will automatically get converted to your signature, including your name and the date. That's two dashes, followed by four [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde#Tilde_with_keyboards tilde characters]. Thanks! --[[User:Jon|Jon]] 17:33, 10 July 2009 (MDT) ==Cobalt327 Discussion== Jon, how much open discussion do you want to have here on the record? I feel Cobalt327 is trying exert authority he does not have and never will. My bad ===Cobalt327 the HR.com offender?=== Cobalt treated me so poorly on HR.com and called me the "worse" moderator he had ever seen on any forum. That is part of where my distrust for him comes from. Cobalt should have been suspended multiple times for his method of treating members on HR.com, he was not. Cobalt would edit out his inflammatory posts. The 'edit' time limit was shortened by Jon. Who complained the loudest? Cobalt327. Why was Cobalt not suspended? The answer given by many involved in the discussion; Because Cobalt327 contributes enough good tech info from internet search engines. . Another answer provided was; coblat327 provides a 'useful service' ===Cobalt comes to Crankshaft Wiki=== After what seemed to be paranoid thoughts , impressions or something on the Crankshaft Wiki (here in referred to as the Wiki)... Cobalt327 joins and proceeds forward. Soon he provides his extensive internet search engine knowledge to the Wiki ===Soon Cobalt and Crosley butt heads=== Primarily on the T-350 Rebuild Tech article. Cobalt altered the T-350 Rebuild thread name. This cancels links Crosley has in place on sites. Cobalt adds incorrect information or fotos. Crosley corrects. Cobalts corrects Crosley edits, Crosley not happy. Cobalt adds non rebuild tech stuff. Crosley removes it. Cobalt 327 not(unknown) happy? Crosley does not care. Cobalt327 may not care either. ===Cobalt327 adds signature for Crosley=== On the the talk page : [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Talk:T-350_rebuild_tech T-350 Rebuild Talk] Cobalt has now added my signature to a location I did not add. '''I concider that a gross personal violation.''' ===Cobalt group hug=== Also on the same [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Talk:T-350_rebuild_tech T-350 Rebuild Talk] page Cobalt posts; '''"There is no need for continued animosity. I again will say that I'm willing to put the past behind us in an effort to maintain a decent working relationship. That's all I can do, the rest is up to you"''' Crosley's answer is : '''Well, of course the worse offender always wants to "put things behind us"''' ;-) ===Cobalt points out more mistakes Crosley made=== Also in the T-350 Talk page: Cobalt posts and links to the "Help " pages on editing Talk discussion. Crosley found this: '''Delete discussions when they are out-of-date;Discussions can often get left lying around on a talk page long after the issue is no longer relevant. It's usually a good idea to reply to saying "I think this is now resolved", but sooner or later it's time to just blow away the old discussions (they are of course preserved in the editing history).''' Crosley edited out old discussion. Crosley was trying to move on. The article by Jake is so diluted in the current article. Jakes article was a performance build and incomplete. I modified the article to a generic T-350 rebuild. Crosley thought that was the point of a Wiki. A constant update - improvement of the article. Crosley added comments on the "talk page" of the T-350 article about Jakes OE article as inspiration for the current Wiki article as suggested by Jon... Cobalt altered the talk page again, the method of the Wiki. LOL ===Why keep old fotos when article is updated?=== I deleted old photos. Why maintain the old photos on server space that someone has to pay $ for ? When does "long enough" apply to maintaining old information? ===Cobalt327 reloads fotos=== I knew cobalt would reload the old fotos. I enjoy providing him the avenue for tasks, I guess. My bad... does that comment 'my bad' , make it all OK? ;-) ===Dont delete Cobalt's fotos=== Coblat327 asks me to not delete any photos he uploaded. I have not to my knowledge. Even the incorrect photos Cobalt placed in the T-350 Rebuild Tech article with powerglide parts shown. I did not delete that foto as I recall. Cobalt327 does not even know what he posts on some articles. ===Cobalt and terminology=== Bell Housing or bellhousing? Rear end or rearend? TH350 or THM 350 or T-350? A fellow I know still calls a T-400 an '''AT-400'''. A term long lost on most folks. ===Cobalt repackages internet search info=== Cobalt327 gathers internet info, repackages it, he becomes a hero. In my eyes cobalt327 is a zero, not to be trusted. ===Cobalt327 is NOT a dumb ass=== With people like Cobalt327 editing Wiki articles, that explains why so many folks do not trust Wiki information. When Crosley jumped on the internet in late 1996 (what little existed) ... Crosley had the foolish idea I could stop or slow down the incorrect information on the web on the subject of automatic transmissions. With people like Cobalt327 that regurgitate any information on all subjects, the cycle will continue forever. Dont mistake my words here for a blanket statement that Cobalt327 is a complete dumb ass, I am sure he is not an unmitigated dumb ass. === OH My Gosh === OH, let me apologize to Cobalt327 (LOL) since I am sure I did not type his full user name correctly each time, I did not space correctly, I did not capitalize correctly, I did not link each spot correctly, I did not punctuate correctly, I did not catch all mis-speeled words, I did not 'do things' as others do on other Wiki sites, did I mention extra spaces?, and his OCD will point that out in a longer response with more '''bold text''' than I used since he has to do more at anything than others have before him. I figure I forgot a few items, Cobalt327 will correct me. I apologize again if I forgot something. If I do not remember forgetting, does it still count as forgetful? ===I add signature before Cobalt does it for me=== oh hell, I will sign this message before cobalt327 signs it for me. [[User:Crosley|Crosley]] 22:02, 2 April 2012 (MDT) I added some extra spaces to ::To clarify, yes, I want this discussed in the open, as well as any future conflicts between yourselves or among any other wiki editors. I don't yet have a specific resolution to the above conflict, but I will consider how to move forward.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 12:27, 5 April 2012 (MDT) :::Both of you guys have admin status, and should now be able to use the wiki structure to resolve most if not all conflicts. :::If Cobalt327 (or anyone else) places incorrect information in an article, it should be corrected or deleted; that process is what wiki is all about. If there's a conflict about whether information is correct or not, it should be addressed in the Talk page for that article. If it absolutely can't be resolved, then a note can be placed in an article (ie: "The information in this section is disputed…". Repeated debate and correction of information is what moves articles forward over time, even if that process results in the occasional deadlock. :::I'm open to continued discussion on this topic, and have left the above section intact while cleaning up all other parts of my Talk page. If anyone has anything further to add, please do so. If not, I'll finish cleaning up my Talk page by deleting the above.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:21, 25 June 2012 (MDT) ::::I have nothing to add.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 13:25, 25 June 2012 (MDT) ==Embedding video from YouTube== How is this done?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 06:45, 20 June 2012 (MDT) :It's broken. Looks like the functionality broke after the server move. We might need to install a new video embedding extension. I made a note of this in [[Wiki updates]].--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:40, 20 June 2012 (MDT) ==Recent "new" page== A page [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/index.php?title=Spark_advance&rcid=27905 Spark advance] was recently added. This is a cut and paste of a widely circulated 'article' that is all over the 'net. As it stands now this page does not have a category specified, so is in limbo. Any suggestions as to what to do w/it?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 18:25, 22 June 2012 (MDT) :I'm leaving it w/o a category. This can be changed if anyone wants.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 05:49, 25 June 2012 (MDT) ::My view is that we should delete these. We don't allow copypasta, unless we can prove that its copyright status is such that we can reproduce it here, or unless the copied text is so small ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_minimis de minimis]) that it doesn't matter.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:10, 25 June 2012 (MDT) :::I'll go ahead and delete it.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 13:25, 25 June 2012 (MDT)

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