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==Intro== This wiki page was created as a home for the plans that are a result of this thread: [http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/creating-new-t-bucket-frame-plans-need-tons-info-plans-77092.html Creating New T Bucket Plans] My plans will be added as they are finalized, currently i am only working on adding example pictures to this page ==Planning your build== ==Frame== ==="Classic" style=== ==="Sparky"=== ==Front suspension== Front axle choices: Early Ford I-beam axles: 28-31 Model A Passenger Car & Pickup 32-36 Passenger Car & Pickup 37-41 Passenger Car & Pickup 42-48 Passenger Car 42-47 Pickup Early Dodge/Plymouth tubular axles: 33-39 Dodge 33 & 35-39 Plymouth Early Ford Tubular axles: 37-40 V8-60 only Any other factory I-beam axle from Chevy/GMC or Ford Pickups, 60s Ford & Chevy/GMC vans, early Chevy cars 36-40, early Chevy/GMC pickups 36-55. Fabricated axles: Many makers (Speedway Motors, Total Performance, and others) usually sold and described as dropped axle in 4-5-6" drops and made to accomodate 37-48 Ford Passenger Car and 37-47 Ford Pickup spindles, or 61-66 Ford Econoline Van spindles, or 49-54 Chevrolet Passenger Car spindles. NEW Manufactured axles: Super Bell tubular axle Magnum dropped I-beam Super Bell dropped I-beam and others ===Coils & shocks=== Don't do it!! No matter that Car Craft did this on their project car. Ugly is ugly and almost nothing is uglier that those nasty towers on the front of the frame and coil springs and cups on the axle and shocks running up the middle...YAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! No chrome, no paint, nothing can hide this mistake....don't do it! There are too many other options that at least look good. === Coil Over's=== If done right, this is a clean attractive good riding suspension for the front of any roadster. If done wrong....well it can be ugly, it can be nasty looking, and it can be rough riding. ===Transverse Leaf Spring (Buggy spring)=== Based on the 28-34 Ford suspension, this is the old classic if there is any such thing. Most important thing is to make sure your spring is mounted under tension as the original Ford design requires. The spring must be spread to mount the shackles to the perches. Be sure if you are using a 28-31 or 32-34 front spring to have the perches at the proper width and have the correct shackles for the spring you have, 32-34 springs have a larger spring eye than 28-31 As do. The original springs are 10-12 leaf units. Unless you are running a big block or early heavy engine you'll be best served if you experiment with the number of leaves in the front spring. Keep the main leaf and number 2, removing the odd number springs(3.5.7.9 etc)to reach your best number. YES, it is a pain in the neck to remove, dismantle, remove leaves, reassemble and reinstall the spring, but it works. Try starting with a six leaf spring, main,2,4,6,8,10 to begin with. That could asve you a few steps. What you are looking for when finished is a front end which deflects when you put your foot on the spring perch and push down. NOT, a situation where you have to stand on the perch and jump up and down to get movement. Always use tubular shocks, old name airplane shocks, not friction shocks, IF you really plan on driving your car. ===1/4 eliptical's=== [[Image:http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14331]] [[Image:http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14332]] ===4 link / Hair pins=== ==Rear Suspension == ===Coils & shocks=== === Coil Over's=== ===Leaf Sping (Buggy spring)=== ===1/4 eliptical's=== ===4 link / Hair pins=== ==Axle Centering devices== ===Panhard Bar=== ===Watts Link=== ==Engine / transmission Xmembers== ==Steering assembly== For cleanest and simplest body mounting, weld your mounting tabs inside the frame rails at the side part of the cowl, a simple straight 1X2" inch full crossmember at the back edge of the "door" edge bead, and the last about halfway from the "door" bead to the back of the bucket. If you have chosen to not have the framerails sticking inside the cabin with you at the back, weld a tab to the top of the kickup and form it to meet the back walland install a bolt on each side to stabilize the back wall on these tab mounts. Your 3/4-1" marine plywood floor should rest directly on the frame rails on a layer of body to frame webbing or similar material to eliminate any squeaks from movement. Use minimum 3/8 bolts/nuts and large thick flatwashers along with lockwashers to secure your body down to the frame. After your first 50-100 miles of riding, check all fasteners for tightness. There you are, simple, secure, and solid. A well made 23-25 T roadster body will not need any wooden bracing in the bucket itself unless you plan on having an opening door on the passenger side. It is important to reinforce the upper rail around the cabin. DO this before you have the floor installed as it is easier if the body is upside down. Measure your body and see how symettrical it is. This can be done with a nice piece of 1/2" rebar formed to fit closely under the rail from the dashboard around the perimeter of the body and back to the dashboard. It is easier to do this in 2 pieces and then weld them together. Once you have a good fit mix a nice of your favorite filler and lay down a bed of it to nestle the rebar(derusted,epoxy-primed and painted of course) in. Once the filler has set up, go ahead and make up some more and completely enclose the bar in a cocoon of filler all the way around. Now the upper rail of your body is solid and it is time to install the floor and fit the body to the frame. You'll want a nice 5/8-3/4" piece of plywood cut to fit the firewall of your roadster on the inside. This gives you a nice solid mounting surface for your electrics (fuse box, relays, etc.) and accelerator pedal. You may want to run a stringer of wood just inside the lower rocker panel where the body drops over the frame as a stiffener. ==Hinge Fabrication== ==Latch Installation== For crying out loud, don't make up any form of foam block seat cushion or anything like it. The only thing that gives you a good, if not great, seat is a NEW Model T seat cushion spring assembly. These are made by 2 companies, Car-Line Mfg. in Beaumont TX and Snyder's Antique Auto Parts in New Springfield OH. You can buy them from many suppliers of Model T parts but these are the 2 manufacturers. Mount the spring assembly to a 5/8-3/4" plywood base with 3-5 3" holes cut into the board. The upholstery design is up to you. The holes allow displaced air from your weight on the seat to escape without blowing up the upholstery, get it? Determine the height of your seat riser board at the front of the cushion by mocking up the cushion assembly in the body. You'll want about a 4-6" board for the proper slope of teh seat from front to back. You may put a short block or two under the back as well if it fits your purpose. You might consider buying a stock T seat back rest spring too. This will give you a nice surface for your back to rest on. Don't forget to add alumbar roll to the lower part of any upholstery you use, or have a nice upholstery matching lumbar pillow made for your driving comfort. The coil spring seat assembly in your car and a working suspension on your car will give you as close to that "Cadillac" ride as you can get with a short wheelbase light car like the T and make those long trips to rod runs not only enjoyable but desireable. Your wife or girlfriend will appreciate that comfort too, and there are rewards for that consideration, knowhatimeanVern? ==Pedal Assemblies== ==Shifter Assemblies==
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