383/388 Chevy stroker
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==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
A 383 is a 350 block bored +0.030" with a 3.750" crank. A 388 is a 350 block bored +0.060" with a 3.750" crank. The 383/388 SBC stroker has become one of the most popular engines in the history of the small block Chevy. The only engine that surpasses it in volume is the production 305 and 350 SBC. | A 383 is a 350 block bored +0.030" with a 3.750" crank. A 388 is a 350 block bored +0.060" with a 3.750" crank. The 383/388 SBC stroker has become one of the most popular engines in the history of the small block Chevy. The only engine that surpasses it in volume is the production 305 and 350 SBC. | ||
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The following article will help the new engine builder to better understand the details involved in building this powerplant. | The following article will help the new engine builder to better understand the details involved in building this powerplant. | ||
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==Parts stack height== | ==Parts stack height== | ||
When the various parts that make up the reciprocating assembly are selected, these parts have to fit into the SBC deck height dimension of ~9.025". When calculating the stack of parts that make up the reciprocating assembly, use the radius of the stroke, which is the same thing as 1/2 of the stroke, because only 1/2 of the crankshaft stroke swings ''above'' the crankshaft centerline. So for a stock 350 Chevy having a stroke of 3.48", use 1/2 of the stroke (3.480" times .5 = 1.74") to start putting the stack of parts together that will fit into the block. | When the various parts that make up the reciprocating assembly are selected, these parts have to fit into the SBC deck height dimension of ~9.025". When calculating the stack of parts that make up the reciprocating assembly, use the radius of the stroke, which is the same thing as 1/2 of the stroke, because only 1/2 of the crankshaft stroke swings ''above'' the crankshaft centerline. So for a stock 350 Chevy having a stroke of 3.48", use 1/2 of the stroke (3.480" times .5 = 1.74") to start putting the stack of parts together that will fit into the block. | ||
| + | Another example using the 3.80" stroke crank (3.80" x .5 = 1.90") | ||
In a running engine, the oil clearance will create a slightly longer stack- a 0.003" rod bearing oil clearance will add something slightly less than 0.003". In this article, oil clearance will NOT be added into the stack height. If desired the oil clearance may be added; easiest way to do this would be to either add the oil clearance to the rod length, or simpler yet, just add the oil clearance after the stack height is calculated. The added height from the oil clearance would only be an issue if the engine is being built with a marginal amount of quench (<0.035" for steel rods); if built with the "ideal" 0.040" quench, the oil clearance can be basically ignored. | In a running engine, the oil clearance will create a slightly longer stack- a 0.003" rod bearing oil clearance will add something slightly less than 0.003". In this article, oil clearance will NOT be added into the stack height. If desired the oil clearance may be added; easiest way to do this would be to either add the oil clearance to the rod length, or simpler yet, just add the oil clearance after the stack height is calculated. The added height from the oil clearance would only be an issue if the engine is being built with a marginal amount of quench (<0.035" for steel rods); if built with the "ideal" 0.040" quench, the oil clearance can be basically ignored. | ||
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Another consideration is piston "rock". At TDC as the piston transitions from upward to downward movement, the piston will tip on its wrist pin. This causes one edge of the piston to be a small amount higher than the other edge. The exact amount will vary with how much piston to wall clearance there is; more clearance means more piston rock. Forged pistons generally have a looser piston to wall clearance than cast pistons, but newer design forged pistons have tighter clearances than was used in days gone by. This is another thing that's basically accounted for if a 0.040" quench distance is maintained. Only if less than 0.035" would this possible be an issue. | Another consideration is piston "rock". At TDC as the piston transitions from upward to downward movement, the piston will tip on its wrist pin. This causes one edge of the piston to be a small amount higher than the other edge. The exact amount will vary with how much piston to wall clearance there is; more clearance means more piston rock. Forged pistons generally have a looser piston to wall clearance than cast pistons, but newer design forged pistons have tighter clearances than was used in days gone by. This is another thing that's basically accounted for if a 0.040" quench distance is maintained. Only if less than 0.035" would this possible be an issue. | ||
| − | The bottom line to all this is it's best to maintain an adequate quench figure of 0.040". There's nothing to be gained by going tighter, and a 0.040" quench distance will avoid unseen problems for the most part. If the quench is less than 0.040", be sure to double check clearances to be sure there is no contact between the piston and head- for obvious reasons. | + | The bottom line to all this is it's best to maintain an adequate quench figure of 0.040". There's nothing to be gained by going tighter, and a 0.040" quench distance will avoid unseen problems for the most part. If the quench is less than 0.040", be sure to double check clearances to be sure there is no contact between the piston and head- for obvious reasons. |
==350 SBC piston compression height and piston deck height== | ==350 SBC piston compression height and piston deck height== | ||
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Some builders prefer not to use a 6" rod, the thinking being because the wrist pin intrudes into the oil ring groove- meaning pinned rings or support rails must be used to allow the oil control ring package to do its job- isn't worth the possible advantages from a higher rod/stroke ratio and/or lighter pistons, etc. However, Ross offers a 383 stroker piston with a 1.120" compression height that doesn't require rail supports. | Some builders prefer not to use a 6" rod, the thinking being because the wrist pin intrudes into the oil ring groove- meaning pinned rings or support rails must be used to allow the oil control ring package to do its job- isn't worth the possible advantages from a higher rod/stroke ratio and/or lighter pistons, etc. However, Ross offers a 383 stroker piston with a 1.120" compression height that doesn't require rail supports. | ||
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| + | If that option does not appeal to you, you can use the 3.80" stroke crank as mentioned above, use a 5.7" stroker clearanced rod and a Sealed Power H859CP Piston which has a compression height of 1.425". The stack out will be crank 1/2 stroke 1.9", connecting rod 5.7", Piston 1.425". This will give a stack out of 9.025". This will be dead zero deck height on a standard 350 block. For quench area a thicker head gasket will have to be used such as a FlePro 0.71 MLS. | ||
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| − | Yet another option, although one of the least popular, is to use the stock SBC 400 rod with a 350 SBC piston. The stack of parts looks like: 1.875" + 5.565" + 1.56 = 9.00". The main complaint about using this combo is the rod length. | + | Yet another option, although one of the least popular, is to use the stock SBC 400 rod with a 350 SBC piston. The stack of parts looks like: 1.875" + 5.565" + 1.56 = 9.00". The main complaint about using this combo is the rod length. |
==Clearances== | ==Clearances== | ||
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For clearance, I-beam rods are much easier to use than H-beam rods. | For clearance, I-beam rods are much easier to use than H-beam rods. | ||
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| + | Another option for increased clearance are small base circle camshafts which are designed specifically to give the additional crankshaft counterweight clearance. If using the 3.80" stroke crankshaft this is a must even when aftermarket stroke rods are used. | ||
===Crankshaft and rod to block=== | ===Crankshaft and rod to block=== | ||
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Same thing here as was said above, regarding stroker rods. They will have a much better chance of having enough clearance without any modifications to them '''or''' the block. The place where the rod hits is the nut (if a nut and bolt rod big end) or the capscrew. Grinding on either can be an iffy proposition, so only remove what's absolutely necessary and not a bit more. If using the stock SBC 400 rod (5.565"), it will not need any clearancing. But 383 stroker cranks that use the 400 rod are not that readily available and the rod length-to-stroke ratio is not favorable. | Same thing here as was said above, regarding stroker rods. They will have a much better chance of having enough clearance without any modifications to them '''or''' the block. The place where the rod hits is the nut (if a nut and bolt rod big end) or the capscrew. Grinding on either can be an iffy proposition, so only remove what's absolutely necessary and not a bit more. If using the stock SBC 400 rod (5.565"), it will not need any clearancing. But 383 stroker cranks that use the 400 rod are not that readily available and the rod length-to-stroke ratio is not favorable. | ||
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| + | We have found the thickness of the wire of a paper clip for clearances of the rods on the pan rail is just about right. | ||
==A word on rod/stroke ratios== | ==A word on rod/stroke ratios== | ||
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==Aftermarket parts combos== | ==Aftermarket parts combos== | ||
| − | A popular parts combo for a 383/388 stroker is the Scat cast steel crankshaft and Scat I-beam forged Pro Stock rods. The Scat counterweights will clear the pistons using a 5.7" rod and the rods will clear the cam, so no grinding on the rods for cam clearance will be necessary. You may need to do a little grinding on the inside of the block at the pan rail to clear the big end of the rod, but it will be minimal. | + | A popular parts combo for a 383/388 stroker is the Scat cast steel crankshaft and Scat I-beam forged Pro Stock rods. The Scat counterweights will clear the pistons using a 5.7" rod and the rods will clear the cam, so no grinding on the rods for cam clearance will be necessary. You may need to do a little grinding on the inside of the block at the pan rail to clear the big end of the rod, but it will be minimal. |
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| + | Eagle also makes a great cast steel crankshaft internally balanced for lower power applications such as street engines without power adders. | ||
| + | The Eagle 10352380057I is a great 3.8" stroke crankshaft for up to around 500 HP. It's design exceeds the factory specifications for a stock engine and carries the standard bearing sizes. However, it is not recommended for high RPM use or power adders such as turbos or nitros. | ||
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| + | ==Quench== | ||
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One way to arrive at a ~0.040" quench distance is to cut the block decks to zero piston deck height and to use a head gasket that compresses to around 0.040". This allows a quench (or squish, or "squench") measurement of 0.040". Squish is the high speed jetting of fuel air mixture from the dead zone opposite the combustion chamber. When the piston approaches top dead center, the clearance between the crown of the piston and the underside of the cylinder head diminishes to just short of a collision. This squeezes or "squishes" the mixture that is there, across the cylinder toward the spark plug. This high-speed jetting of the mixture not only eliminates any dead spots in the chamber, but also creates turbulence to achieve a more homogeneous mixing of the fuel/air mixture so that there are no lean or rich areas in the chamber. When using steel rods on a street/strip performance engine, having a tight squish of 0.035" minimum to 0.045"-0.050" will allow a high performance street/strip motor to run on pump gas without detonation, providing that all the other important areas are also covered, like the static and dynamic compression ratios. | One way to arrive at a ~0.040" quench distance is to cut the block decks to zero piston deck height and to use a head gasket that compresses to around 0.040". This allows a quench (or squish, or "squench") measurement of 0.040". Squish is the high speed jetting of fuel air mixture from the dead zone opposite the combustion chamber. When the piston approaches top dead center, the clearance between the crown of the piston and the underside of the cylinder head diminishes to just short of a collision. This squeezes or "squishes" the mixture that is there, across the cylinder toward the spark plug. This high-speed jetting of the mixture not only eliminates any dead spots in the chamber, but also creates turbulence to achieve a more homogeneous mixing of the fuel/air mixture so that there are no lean or rich areas in the chamber. When using steel rods on a street/strip performance engine, having a tight squish of 0.035" minimum to 0.045"-0.050" will allow a high performance street/strip motor to run on pump gas without detonation, providing that all the other important areas are also covered, like the static and dynamic compression ratios. | ||
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| + | For a more detailed discussion, see '''[[Quench]]'''. | ||
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==GMPP HT383 crate engine== | ==GMPP HT383 crate engine== | ||
| − | This engine was introduced in response to the wildly popular SBC 383 stroker engine made popular by backyard mechanics, machine shops, and later | + | This engine was introduced in response to the wildly popular SBC 383 stroker engine made popular by backyard mechanics, machine shops, and later in the aftermarket. |
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| + | It uses a 4-bolt block and Vortec iron heads with 1.94" x 1.5" valves and an aluminum dual plenum intake. | ||
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| + | It produces 340 HP @ 4500 rpm and It produces 435 ft/lb torque at 4000 rpm. | ||
===Differences=== | ===Differences=== | ||
While the HT383 is not that different than many SBC engines, the differences are important ones: | While the HT383 is not that different than many SBC engines, the differences are important ones: | ||
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| + | ====Bore and stroke==== | ||
| + | *Bore is 4.00" instead of the usual 4.030" or 4.060" | ||
| + | *Stroke is 3.80" instead of the usual 3.75". | ||
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| + | ====Rods==== | ||
*[http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/performance_parts/2012/ChevroletPerformance_Catalog_2012193.html '''Rods'''] are powdered metal with a pressed pin, but are clearanced for a stroker application. The retaining hardware consists of a threaded tapered stud in the rod (giving added clearance between the rods and the cam, etc.). This is different than the usual bolt and nut used on most other engines. Said to be good to 550 HP. | *[http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/performance_parts/2012/ChevroletPerformance_Catalog_2012193.html '''Rods'''] are powdered metal with a pressed pin, but are clearanced for a stroker application. The retaining hardware consists of a threaded tapered stud in the rod (giving added clearance between the rods and the cam, etc.). This is different than the usual bolt and nut used on most other engines. Said to be good to 550 HP. | ||
| − | *[http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-12489436 '''Crankshaft'''] is a quality, forged | + | |
| + | ====Crankshaft==== | ||
| + | *[http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-12489436 '''Crankshaft'''] is a quality, forged 4340 steel unit made for the 1-piece rear main seal configuration. It is externally balanced. Instead of the usual 3.75" stroke, it is a 3.8" stroke, so the displacement will still be 383 ci, but with a 4" bore block. Chevy saw no reason to bore out a new block just so a 3.75" crank could be used. | ||
**This crank in a 0.030" over block gives a displacement of 388ci. | **This crank in a 0.030" over block gives a displacement of 388ci. | ||
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| − | ** | + | ====Pistons==== |
| − | **Chevy shoots for a 9.0" stack of parts for SBC engines. Using a 9.025" block deck height, 3.8" stroke, and 5.7" rods, the piston CH would need to be 1.4” for the stack to equal 9” (1.9 + 5.7 + 1.4 = 9.0). | + | The HT 383 [http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-12499103 '''pistons'''] are a letdown. They're the same old tired, cheap-to-make 4 valve relief, pressed pin, round dish pistons GM has been foisting off on the public since years ago when the drop in CR was mandated. These pistons have no redeeming qualities, unless you consider the aluminum alloy being hypereutectic a plus. |
| − | **It appears the head gasket is 0.028" thick | + | |
| + | What is known about these pistons: | ||
| + | *They're hypereutectic aluminum alloy. | ||
| + | *They give a 9.1:1 CR with a 0.028" thickness head gasket and the Vortec chamber size of 64cc. | ||
| + | **Chevy shoots for a 9.0" stack of parts for SBC engines. Using a 9.025" block deck height, 3.8" stroke, and 5.7" rods, the piston CH would need to be 1.4” for the stack to equal 9” (1.9 + 5.7 + 1.4 = 9.0). The actual compression height of the HT383 piston is presently unknown. | ||
| + | **Using the quench distance of 0.053", a piston dish size of 21cc would be about right for a 9.1:1 CR. A 9.1:1 compression ratio using a quench of 0.040" will require a 24cc dish. | ||
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| + | ====Head gasket==== | ||
| + | *It appears the head gasket is composite and 0.028" thick. The CR is advertised as 9.1:1. | ||
**A 0.028" gasket using the numbers above will give a quench distance of 0.053". To bring the quench down to 0.040" would require a piston CH of about 1.413" (or a head gasket thickness of 0.015"). | **A 0.028" gasket using the numbers above will give a quench distance of 0.053". To bring the quench down to 0.040" would require a piston CH of about 1.413" (or a head gasket thickness of 0.015"). | ||
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===HT383 technical specifications=== | ===HT383 technical specifications=== | ||
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<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Part Number: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">12499101</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Part Number: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">12499101</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Engine type: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Chevy small-block V8</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Engine type: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Chevy small-block V8</td></tr> | ||
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<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Displacement (ci): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">383</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Displacement (ci): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">383</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Bore x stroke: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">4.00" x 3.80"</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Bore x stroke: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">4.00" x 3.80"</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Block (P/N 88962516): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Cast iron with 4-bolt main caps</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Block (P/N 88962516): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Cast iron with 4-bolt main caps</td></tr> | ||
| − | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Crankshaft (P/N 12489436): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">4340 forged steel</td></tr> | + | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Crankshaft (P/N 12489436): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">4340 forged steel, externally balanced</td></tr> |
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Connecting rods (P/N 12497624): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Heavy-duty powdered metal steel, screwed-in studs</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Connecting rods (P/N 12497624): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Heavy-duty powdered metal steel, screwed-in studs</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Pistons (P/N 12499103):</td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);"> Hypereutectic aluminum, round dish w/4 valve reliefs</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Pistons (P/N 12499103):</td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);"> Hypereutectic aluminum, round dish w/4 valve reliefs</td></tr> | ||
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<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Camshaft type (P/N 14097395): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Hydraulic roller</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Camshaft type (P/N 14097395): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Hydraulic roller</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Valve lift: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">0.431" intake/0.451" exhaust</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Valve lift: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">0.431" intake/0.451" exhaust</td></tr> | ||
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<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Valve size: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">1.94" intake/1.50" exhaust</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Valve size: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">1.94" intake/1.50" exhaust</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Compression ratio: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">9.1:1</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Compression ratio: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">9.1:1</td></tr> | ||
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<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Rocker Arms (P/N 10089648): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Stamped steel</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Rocker Arms (P/N 10089648): </td><td style="background-color: rgb(230, 255, 255);">Stamped steel</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Rocker arm ratio: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">1.5:1</td></tr> | <tr><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">Rocker arm ratio: </td><td style="background-color: rgb(237, 243, 254);">1.5:1</td></tr> | ||
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==Resources== | ==Resources== | ||
| − | *[http://www.kb-silvolite.com/kb_car/performance.php?action=search&mfg=Chevy&EngSize=383&RodLen=5.7 KB pistons for a 5.7" rod SBC 383 stroker] | + | *<<dead link>>[http://www.kb-silvolite.com/kb_car/performance.php?action=search&mfg=Chevy&EngSize=383&RodLen=5.7 KB pistons for a 5.7" rod SBC 383 stroker] |
| − | *[http://www.kb-silvolite.com/kb_car/performance.php?action=search&mfg=Chevy&EngSize=383&RodLen=6 KB pistons for a 6" rod SBC 383 stroker] | + | *<<dead link>>[http://www.kb-silvolite.com/kb_car/performance.php?action=search&mfg=Chevy&EngSize=383&RodLen=6 KB pistons for a 6" rod SBC 383 stroker] |
| + | *[http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ GM parts], one of many sources | ||
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