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The AMC V8 has a [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Talk:AMC_V-8s storied] history. Read about the pros and cons of both AMC V8 engines. This article will touch on the highlights.  
 
The AMC V8 has a [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Talk:AMC_V-8s storied] history. Read about the pros and cons of both AMC V8 engines. This article will touch on the highlights.  
  
{{Note1}} Portions of the following text came from [http://www.wps.com/AMC/Rambler-327/The%20New%20American%20Motors%20V-8%20Engine%20%28SAE%20Paper%20details%29.htm The New American Motors V-8 Engine] by John F. Adamson, Carl E. Burke and David B. Potter of the American Motors Corp. This paper was first presented at the SAE National Passenger-Car, Body and Materials Meeting, Detroit, Michigan, March 7, 1956.  
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Portions of the following text came from [http://www.wps.com/AMC/Rambler-327/The%20New%20American%20Motors%20V-8%20Engine%20%28SAE%20Paper%20details%29.htm The New American Motors V-8 Engine] by John F. Adamson, Carl E. Burke and David B. Potter of the American Motors Corp. This paper was first presented at the SAE National Passenger-Car, Body and Materials Meeting, Detroit, Michigan, March 7, 1956.
  
 
==In the beginning==
 
==In the beginning==
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All 250 engines were made having solid lifters and adjustable rocker arms. All 287 and most 327 versions came with self adjusting hydraulic lifters. These engines were also used by Grey Marine for boats in the late '50s through the mid '60s. All the marine engines used solid lifters regardless of size. The easily removed 'two wingnut' style valve covers imply original solid lifter design.
 
All 250 engines were made having solid lifters and adjustable rocker arms. All 287 and most 327 versions came with self adjusting hydraulic lifters. These engines were also used by Grey Marine for boats in the late '50s through the mid '60s. All the marine engines used solid lifters regardless of size. The easily removed 'two wingnut' style valve covers imply original solid lifter design.
  
AM's '56-'67 Rambler V8 has only recently been re-labeled 'Gen 1' by newer AMC enthusiasts. This labeling was first used by AMC writer Frank Swygert (aka editor/forum member 'farna') in an effort to describe the engine chronologically. Technically the labeling is correct; this is the first generation of AMC V-8s, AMC having been formed in May of 1954 and V-8 engine development starting in 1955. The 1966-'69 second generation models and 1970-'91 third generation models are very similar (to each other, only bore centers are in common with the Gen-1), but having a different block and head casting led to the labeling of Gen-2 and Gen-3. "Series" could have been used instead of "Generation", but "Generation" (shortened to "Gen") seemed to be the most correct description. Previously the first generation AMC V-8 had been (and still is) referred to as either the "Nash V-8" or "Rambler V-8". It was used in both Nash and Rambler branded, as well as AMC branded, cars ("Rambler" was dropped from the 1965 Marlin and 1966 Ambassador, those being branded as AMC models). Technically it was built by the American Motors Corporation, not Nash or Rambler.
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AM's first V8 was called 'Rambler V8' in all the old automotive literature. The alpha-numeric 'Gen-1,2,3' names were never used in any American Motors publication.  
  
 
'Gen-1', 'Gen-2', etc. labeling ideas were first used by Chevrolet small block V-8 enthusiasts to distinguish the differences among that group of very similar engines. This has apparently led many to believe the terms were "borrowed" from the GM engine family or that a GM enthusiast created the labels. There was a small effort to distinguish between GM and AMC labels: GM models are typically labeled with all capitals (GEN-1, GEN-2, etc., sometimes with no dash), whereas Frank used a single capital (Gen-1, and always a dash). The label was used because it is technically correct and fits. GM's labeling wasn't even considered until others pointed out the similarities, and made the assumption that the labeling was "borrowed".
 
'Gen-1', 'Gen-2', etc. labeling ideas were first used by Chevrolet small block V-8 enthusiasts to distinguish the differences among that group of very similar engines. This has apparently led many to believe the terms were "borrowed" from the GM engine family or that a GM enthusiast created the labels. There was a small effort to distinguish between GM and AMC labels: GM models are typically labeled with all capitals (GEN-1, GEN-2, etc., sometimes with no dash), whereas Frank used a single capital (Gen-1, and always a dash). The label was used because it is technically correct and fits. GM's labeling wasn't even considered until others pointed out the similarities, and made the assumption that the labeling was "borrowed".
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==Transmissions==  
 
==Transmissions==  
 
===Automatic transmissions===
 
===Automatic transmissions===
AMC used GM hydramatic transmissions in 1957 switching in the '58 model year to a Borg-Warner automatic transmission behind their Gen-1 engine. Only manual transmissions were used in the 1956 Specials. AMC called the GM automatic "Flashaway" and the Borg-Warner transmission "Flash-O-Matic". It's a three speed cast iron case Borg-Warner Model 8 with a vacuum modulator valve. The column shift quadrant will read P-R-N-2-D-1-L. The 1 and 2 are small.  
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AMC used GM hydramatic transmissions in 1957 switching in the '58 model year to "Flash-O-Matic" units manufactured primarily by Warner Gear Division of Borg Warner. Only manual transmissions were used in the 1956 Specials. AMC called the GM automatic "Flashaway" and the Borg-Warner transmission "Flash-O-Matic". It's a three speed cast iron case Borg-Warner Model 8 with a vacuum modulator valve. The column shift quadrant will read P-R-N-2-D-1-L. The 1 and 2 are small.  
  
 
A dash mounted push-button shifter mechanism was used in the Rambler 6 and Ambassador from 1958-'62. The American models used a column shifter. The push-buttons were marked N-R-D2-D1-L, with a Park lever under the dash. P-R-N are self explanatory. In D2 the transmission will act like a two speed. It starts in second gear and shifts to third, downshifts only to second. This was mainly used for slippery conditions such as driving in snow or ice. Using second gear prevented excessive wheel spin. Many people think they have a two speed transmission because this is the third forward position on the transmission. Slip it down to D1, however, and you'll find the missing gear! In D1 the trans shifts from first through third and back down. L (low) is first gear only, no up shifts. The trans can safely be shifted into Low at any speed. As a safety feature the trans will not shift down until it has reached a safe speed to do so. If in third it will got to second, then down to first once a safe speed is reached. It will not shift back up until shifted into D1 or D2. To manually shift through the gears start in L, shift up to D1 then as soon as the trans shifts, go back to L. It won't downshift if accelerating. When ready for third gear go back to D1.  
 
A dash mounted push-button shifter mechanism was used in the Rambler 6 and Ambassador from 1958-'62. The American models used a column shifter. The push-buttons were marked N-R-D2-D1-L, with a Park lever under the dash. P-R-N are self explanatory. In D2 the transmission will act like a two speed. It starts in second gear and shifts to third, downshifts only to second. This was mainly used for slippery conditions such as driving in snow or ice. Using second gear prevented excessive wheel spin. Many people think they have a two speed transmission because this is the third forward position on the transmission. Slip it down to D1, however, and you'll find the missing gear! In D1 the trans shifts from first through third and back down. L (low) is first gear only, no up shifts. The trans can safely be shifted into Low at any speed. As a safety feature the trans will not shift down until it has reached a safe speed to do so. If in third it will got to second, then down to first once a safe speed is reached. It will not shift back up until shifted into D1 or D2. To manually shift through the gears start in L, shift up to D1 then as soon as the trans shifts, go back to L. It won't downshift if accelerating. When ready for third gear go back to D1.  

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