John Deere Blitz Black paint

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==Can you paint over John Deere Blitz Black paint?==
 
According to John Deere, yes, you can paint over JDBB paint with another coat of primer and/or enamel paint.
 
 
However, the wording of the above statement is disputed. While you "can" paint over JDBB paint, it should be done with implement paint only, as a 2K primer, base coat, or urethane single stage will strip. Any enamel (acrylic or alkyd) would likely work. If the paint was activated with a high-enough solids activator '''and''' then sat long enough, it may be possible to shoot a urethane single stage over it, and you '''may''' be able to use a urethane primer if careful. For more information, see: [http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/good-hot-rod-mag-aproved-paint-must-read-128119-3.html#post888190 Hotrodders Bulletin Board forum post].
 
 
==Notes==
 
*Striping of the paint is thought to be caused by the reducer drying too fast. To eliminate striping, some people recommend using regular enamel reducer instead of the John Deere reducer for a slower evaporation rate.
 
*Hold the gun at a 90 degree angle to the surface and keep a 50% overlap.
 
*John Deere Blitz Black paint can't be applied to high heat areas such as engine blocks, headers, or pipes. Also, it will not retard rust.
 
*Some people report success applying it to fiberglass.
 
*Urethane primer or epoxy primer may also be viable as undercoats for JDBB paint.
 
*Some say that JDBB paint is subject to fading and chalking over the years.
 
*Opinions are mixed on using a clearcoat over JDBB. Some say that it can be applied if a flattening agent is used. For a glossy look, wet sanding and buffing are recommended.
 
 
==Part numbers==
 
Part numbers may vary for different regions. California has been specifically mentioned as a place where JDBB may be difficult to obtain, or may be sold under a different part number.
 
 
*John Deere Blitz Black paint: TY25669 (Formerly TY6416)
 
*John Deere Primer: TY25659 (Formerly TY6457)
 
*John Deere Reducer: TY25650 (Formerly PT158)
 
*John Deere Hardener: REN3001
 
 
Additional part numbers/updates:
 
*Low VOC Blitz Black paint: TY25825 (1 gal), TY25826 (1 qt)
 
*Regular Blitz Black paint (not Low VOC): TY25642 (1 qt)
 
*Buff Primer-Sealer: TY25659 (1 gal), TY25649 (1 qt)
 
*Regular Reducer (not Low VOC, not Fast Drying): TY25650 (1 gal), TY25652 (1 qt)
 
 
==Where to get John Deere Blitz Black paint==
 
*[http://dealerlocator.deere.com/servlet/DealerLocator?command=home&locator=3&selectLocale=en_US&sessionId=Rgf865DJYGDkmUUhinR1QMN John Deere dealer locator]
 
 
==Photographs of John Deere Blitz Black paint jobs==
 
The Hotrodders Bulletin Board has photographs of John Deere Blitz Black paint jobs on these pages:
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-3.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 3]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-6.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 6]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-10.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 10]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-14.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 14]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-15.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 15]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-16.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 16]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-17.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 17]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-19.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 18]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-20.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 20]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-21.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 21]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-22.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 22]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-23.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 23]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-24.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 24]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-25.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 25]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993-27.html John Deere Blitz Black discussion, page 27]
 
 
==Alternatives to John Deere Blitz Black paint==
 
*Black epoxy primer.
 
*[http://www.colorrite.com/product_info.php?cPath=0&products_id=160 Asphalt] (#2818) with [http://www.colorrite.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=981 Egg Shell clear coat] (#P-FKT600), produced by [http://www.color-rite.com Color-Rite].
 
*[http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/default.asp?sid=65395&pid=435 U-Tech E360 Series Epoxy Primer/Sealer], from  [http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/ Akzo Nobel Car Refinishes] under the U-Tech brand.
 
*[http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/products.asp?sid=65392&bid=1&cid=424&plid=386&pid=9238 Sikkens Autocryl Rally Black] (#3418), from [http://www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net/ Akzo Nobel Car Refinishes] under the [http://www.sikkens.net Sikkens] brand.
 
*[http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/dpc/en/us/html/color/hh/hh_HotRodBlack_color.html DuPont Hot Hues Hot Rod Black].
 
*Epoxy primer, followed by JDBB primer and JDBB paint.
 
*[http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflatz.aspx Hot Rod Flatz]
 
*[http://www.autopaintdirect.com/rat.html Valspar Rat Rod Black]
 
*[http://www.kirkerautomotive.com/html/hot_rod_black.html Kirker Hot Rod Black]
 
 
== References ==
 
*[http://www.valspar.com Valspar.com]
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/john-deere-blitz-black-31993.html John Deere Blitz Black], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', January 12, 2004.
 
*[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/help-i-need-paint-94092.html I need paint], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', July 19, 2006.
 
 
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