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Need more background here. Plus info on why newer cars don't rust nearly as badly, and on salt/winter driving conditions. Review this article: http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/rust/rust.html .
 
Need more background here. Plus info on why newer cars don't rust nearly as badly, and on salt/winter driving conditions. Review this article: http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/rust/rust.html .
  
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*Why do older cars rust more quickly? Theories are:
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**Cars are more aggressively coated these days. Galvanizing (explain).
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**Steel used in cars is of a higher quality these days.
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**More salt is used on roads these days.
  
 
=How to remove rust=
 
=How to remove rust=
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UV protection?
 
UV protection?
 
Colors?
 
Colors?
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*Some people mentioned that professional body shops don't use POR-15 or similar rust "encapsulators" because:
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**They would have to re-do too much of their work.
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**Rust prevention products are primarily advertised in hobbyist mags, not in periodicals read by professionals in the paint and body industry.
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**The lack of rust preventive products in non-hobbyist industries does appear suspect. For example, why don't ships at sea use POR-15?
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**The major paint manufacturers like Sherwin Williams, PPG, and DuPont don't produce a POR-15 like product. This is thought to be because they couldn't possibly warranty such a product.
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**The fact that POR-15 is not used by manufacturers is also important.
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==Removing rust from body panels==
 
==Removing rust from body panels==
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Wet-sand down to 400 grit, wash/dry, grind down rust to bare metal, apply body filler where needed, blow off, clean with prep-sol or similar cleaner, tape it up, and prime with epoxy primer.
 
Wet-sand down to 400 grit, wash/dry, grind down rust to bare metal, apply body filler where needed, blow off, clean with prep-sol or similar cleaner, tape it up, and prime with epoxy primer.
  
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===Panel adhesives===
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Need info on these.
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===Rivets?===
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Very low-end solution, like fiberglass patching metal.
  
 
===Plasma spray welding===
 
===Plasma spray welding===
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Research this.
 
Research this.
  
==Miscellaneous==
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=Miscellaneous=
  
 
===Cleaning light surface rust off crankshaft===
 
===Cleaning light surface rust off crankshaft===
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===Gas tanks===
 
===Gas tanks===
 
Put a handful of nuts and bolts in, chain, chainsaw blade, etc., and shake it around a bit to knock out the loose stuff. Not too aggressive -- you'll dent the tank. Then, clean with phosphoric acid. Pour it in, let it sit for up to an hour, then flush with water and baking soda to neutralize. Or, Eastwood has a kit for this: an acid to clean it, and then something to coat it with. However, some people say that the coating can clog up the fuel filter, or trash your OEM sending unit. The best way to do it is to take it out and get it re-tinned.
 
Put a handful of nuts and bolts in, chain, chainsaw blade, etc., and shake it around a bit to knock out the loose stuff. Not too aggressive -- you'll dent the tank. Then, clean with phosphoric acid. Pour it in, let it sit for up to an hour, then flush with water and baking soda to neutralize. Or, Eastwood has a kit for this: an acid to clean it, and then something to coat it with. However, some people say that the coating can clog up the fuel filter, or trash your OEM sending unit. The best way to do it is to take it out and get it re-tinned.
 
===Removing rust===
 
 
*Some people mentioned that professional body shops don't use POR-15 or similar rust "encapsulators" because:
 
**They would have to re-do too much of their work.
 
**Rust prevention products are primarily advertised in hobbyist mags, not in periodicals read by professionals in the paint and body industry.
 
**The lack of rust preventive products in non-hobbyist industries does appear suspect. For example, why don't ships at sea use POR-15?
 
**The major paint manufacturers like Sherwin Williams, PPG, and DuPont don't produce a POR-15 like product. This is thought to be because they couldn't possibly warranty such a product.
 
**The fact that POR-15 is not used by manufacturers is also important.
 
  
  
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===Cleaning the inside of a boxed, open-ended frame===
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====Cleaning the inside of a boxed, open-ended frame====
 
Blow out all the dirt, etc. Then, attach a strong towel to some strong cord. Soak the towel with rust treatment chemical, and pull it through the frame.
 
Blow out all the dirt, etc. Then, attach a strong towel to some strong cord. Soak the towel with rust treatment chemical, and pull it through the frame.
  
===Rivets, fiberglass patches, body adhesive glue===
 
For when you can't weld. Fiberglass patches are temporary solutions. Rivets are a cheap solution as well, not so great. What about body adhesive glue?
 
  
 
===Step-by-step epoxy primer application to panels===
 
===Step-by-step epoxy primer application to panels===
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With converters and encapsulator, be sure to treat rust from both sides of the panel.
 
With converters and encapsulator, be sure to treat rust from both sides of the panel.
 
*Why do older cars rust more quickly? Theories are:
 
**Cars are more aggressively coated these days. Galvanizing (explain).
 
**Steel used in cars is of a higher quality these days.
 
**More salt is used on roads these days.
 
  
 
===Axle tube rust===
 
===Axle tube rust===
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How to apply seam sealer/cavity wax? Plus, more general info on cavity wax.
 
  
===Flap disc for rust removal?===
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Scotch-brite wheel too. Need part numbers.
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===Vinyl tops===
 
===Vinyl tops===
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===Cavity waxes (same as seam sealers?)===
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===Cavity waxes and seam sealers===
 
3M rustfighter, Transtar's Amber Coating, Amsoil's HD. Transtar sells 360 degree spray head wand -- find this.
 
3M rustfighter, Transtar's Amber Coating, Amsoil's HD. Transtar sells 360 degree spray head wand -- find this.
 
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How to apply seam sealer/cavity wax? Plus, more general info on cavity wax.
'''Cavity wax and seam sealer are two different products. The confusion probably arrives from the terms being casually used interchangeably.''' Need to have a breakdown of each, with links to example products.
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===Galvanization===
 
===Galvanization===

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