Phosphoric acid as metal pretreatment
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#Ospho is totally neutralized by reaction with both the rust particles and the steel underneath. | #Ospho is totally neutralized by reaction with both the rust particles and the steel underneath. | ||
#Because Ospho is water-based, the water can hide in nooks and crannies, causing adhesion failure of primer | #Because Ospho is water-based, the water can hide in nooks and crannies, causing adhesion failure of primer | ||
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| + | For details on Ospho use, see [[Rust removal with Ospho]]. | ||
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| + | ===Resources=== | ||
| + | *[http://www.skybryte.com/OsphoMSDS.html Ospho MSDS] | ||
| + | *[http://www.skybryte.com/OsphoTec.html Ospho Technical Data Sheet] | ||
====Application tips==== | ====Application tips==== | ||
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*Always make sure metal is dry before using ospho or priming. | *Always make sure metal is dry before using ospho or priming. | ||
*Sand or scuff before priming then use a wax and grease remover to clean. | *Sand or scuff before priming then use a wax and grease remover to clean. | ||
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| + | ===PPG DX579=== | ||
| + | PPG DX579 contains a lower concentration of phosphoric acid than Ospho. | ||
==Naval jelly== | ==Naval jelly== | ||
Naval jelly is considered safer to use than traditional liquid phosphoric acid metal pretreatments. For rust removal on body panels, the naval jelly is kept wet. Paint failures from phosphoric acid are thought to be caused by wiping on the acid, and letting it dry. | Naval jelly is considered safer to use than traditional liquid phosphoric acid metal pretreatments. For rust removal on body panels, the naval jelly is kept wet. Paint failures from phosphoric acid are thought to be caused by wiping on the acid, and letting it dry. | ||
| − | + | ===Resources=== | |
| + | *[http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Visual_Art/documents/NavalJelly.pdf Naval Jelly MSDS] | ||
| + | *[http://www.permatex.com/documents/tds/Automotive/81756.pdf Naval Jelly Technical Data Sheet] | ||
==Reasons for using phosphoric acid== | ==Reasons for using phosphoric acid== | ||
*Inexpensive. | *Inexpensive. | ||
*[[Media blasting]] has its own set of drawbacks, especially when done by a hobbyist or amateur: panel warpage, health hazards for certain media, and mess. | *[[Media blasting]] has its own set of drawbacks, especially when done by a hobbyist or amateur: panel warpage, health hazards for certain media, and mess. | ||
| − | *If used perfectly, it works | + | *If used perfectly, it works fine with a variety of epoxy primers. |
*No experience is needed; easy for amateurs to use. | *No experience is needed; easy for amateurs to use. | ||
*Protects bare metal from surface rust. | *Protects bare metal from surface rust. | ||
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*Amateurs and [[First paint job|first-time painters]] are more likely to make errors. Phosphoric acid pretreatments must be used meticulously, and may be beneficial in an industrial or manufacturing environment. However, they can be catastrophic for beginners. | *Amateurs and [[First paint job|first-time painters]] are more likely to make errors. Phosphoric acid pretreatments must be used meticulously, and may be beneficial in an industrial or manufacturing environment. However, they can be catastrophic for beginners. | ||
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==Specific paint and primer failures caused by phosphoric acid pretreatments== | ==Specific paint and primer failures caused by phosphoric acid pretreatments== | ||
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==Published positions from primer and paint manufacturers== | ==Published positions from primer and paint manufacturers== | ||
| + | ===House of Kolor=== | ||
| + | *[http://www.houseofkolor.com/PDF/TechData/English/KP21.pdf House of Kolor Kwikure Epoxy Primer Surfacer tech sheet]: | ||
| + | <blockquote> | ||
| + | ''"'''NOTE:''' Do not use any acid base products such as self etching primer, etc. under the KP2CF primer. This will almost certainly cause an adhesion problem.'' | ||
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| + | '''''NOTE:''' If you find it necessary to use a metal conditioner to remove rust, etc., be sure to thoroughly clean and neutralize the treated area following the conditioner manufacturers recommendations, then using our KC20 post sanding cleaner with a maroon scuff pad to insure all acid residue has been removed before priming. If not, this will almost certainly cause an adhesion problem."'' | ||
| + | </blockquote> | ||
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| + | House of Kolor is a division of Valspar Corporation. | ||
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===Southern Polyurethanes, Inc.=== | ===Southern Polyurethanes, Inc.=== | ||
| − | *[http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/tech%20sheets%20new/epOXY%202006.pdf Southern Polyurethanes]: | + | *[http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/tech%20sheets%20new/epOXY%202006.pdf Southern Polyurethanes epoxy primer tech sheet]: |
<blockquote> | <blockquote> | ||
''"NEVER use SPI Epoxy over a Soda Blasted vehicle, Acid Etch/Wash Primer, Rust Converter or other Metal Treatments. NEVER!"'' | ''"NEVER use SPI Epoxy over a Soda Blasted vehicle, Acid Etch/Wash Primer, Rust Converter or other Metal Treatments. NEVER!"'' | ||
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==Use of phosphoric acid in an industrial setting== | ==Use of phosphoric acid in an industrial setting== | ||
| − | + | ''this section needs development'' | |
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| + | ==Related articles== | ||
| + | *[[Rust removal with Ospho]] | ||
| + | *[[Rust]] | ||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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*http://www.skybryte.com/index.html | *http://www.skybryte.com/index.html | ||
*http://www.ospho.com/data.htm | *http://www.ospho.com/data.htm | ||
| + | *http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/compatability-spi-ospho-74054.html | ||
| + | *http://www.spiuserforum.com/showthread.php?8-What-every-new-painter-must-read! | ||
[[Category:Body and exterior]] | [[Category:Body and exterior]] | ||
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