User talk:Jon
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:That's fine. IANAL, but Neighbors's portrayal of copyright law may be incomplete. The wiki is clear, via the text beneath the posting box: ''"If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!"''. AFAIK, copyright law has limited recognition of "gimme-backsies". Once you release something into the public domain, or the Creative Commons license that we use, (as long as you are legally entitled to license it accordingly in the first place!), it's very difficult to retract (though not technically impossible, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_v._Holder Golan v. Holder]). Not really an issue in this case, but, in the future, if you come across a user who is demanding a ''significant'' deletion, you likely don't need to comply, especially as their contributions may be intermingled with the contributions of other editors, and too difficult to disentangle. In some situations, you may encounter users who, simply out of spite, demand that all of their contributions be deleted. Per their use of the wiki, they will most likely have previously abandoned the right to make that demand.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 21:59, 17 September 2012 (MDT) | :That's fine. IANAL, but Neighbors's portrayal of copyright law may be incomplete. The wiki is clear, via the text beneath the posting box: ''"If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!"''. AFAIK, copyright law has limited recognition of "gimme-backsies". Once you release something into the public domain, or the Creative Commons license that we use, (as long as you are legally entitled to license it accordingly in the first place!), it's very difficult to retract (though not technically impossible, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_v._Holder Golan v. Holder]). Not really an issue in this case, but, in the future, if you come across a user who is demanding a ''significant'' deletion, you likely don't need to comply, especially as their contributions may be intermingled with the contributions of other editors, and too difficult to disentangle. In some situations, you may encounter users who, simply out of spite, demand that all of their contributions be deleted. Per their use of the wiki, they will most likely have previously abandoned the right to make that demand.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 21:59, 17 September 2012 (MDT) | ||
| − | ::Thanks for the clarification, Jon. I felt in this particular case that the content that was requested to be removed could be deleted w/o causing any problems w/the continuity of the article as a whole, since it had already been removed from the article itself. That's mainly why I made the decision to delete as requested. | + | ::Thanks for the clarification, Jon. I felt in this particular case that the content that was requested to be removed could be deleted w/o causing any problems w/the continuity of the article as a whole, since it had already been removed from the article itself. That's mainly why I made the decision to delete as requested. For the record, rest assured had this issue been any more involved I would have asked for your advice and guidance in handling it.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 07:38, 18 September 2012 (MDT) |
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| − | Helena has called for any bugs on the Hotrodders forum to be posted so they can be addressed, and so far I have avoided asking much about the CC wiki's problems/fixes. I was wondering at what point should I ask about the wiki, or are you (hopefully) handling this personally?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 07: | + | Helena has called for any bugs on the Hotrodders forum to be posted so they can be addressed, and so far I have avoided asking much about the CC wiki's problems/fixes. I was wondering at what point should I ask about the wiki, or are you (hopefully) handling this personally?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 07:38, 18 September 2012 (MDT) |
| + | :Helena has been provided with a list of the Hotrodders.com bugs, and a link to the list of wiki bugs. I think we should get the HR bugs handled first, and then try to prioritize the wiki bugs.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 20:04, 18 September 2012 (MDT) | ||
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| + | ::Agreed. | ||
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| + | :::Spam filter is giving me a rash, again. Moved text to [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Wiki_updates#Spam_filter_bug Wiki updates].--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 21:29, 25 January 2013 (MST) | ||
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| + | ==Email notifications of changes== | ||
| + | If you have chosen to receive them, are you getting email notification when a page on your watchlist or your user talk page is changed? I have selected these options on my [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Special:Preferences Preferences] page but I'm not getting any emails. So I'm wondering if this is something on my end, or what.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 09:21, 19 September 2012 (MDT) | ||
| + | :Same problem here. I've added this to [[Wiki updates]].--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 13:01, 19 September 2012 (MDT) | ||
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| + | ==Recent influx of new "members"== | ||
| + | Since 11-17-12 there has been a relatively large number of new user accounts created. Googling the various screen names shows many to be randomly joining many different forums. Maybe spambots? If so maybe a character recognition prompt at sign up would help. But in any event, just wanted to let you know that this was happening for whatever reason. | ||
| + | :Thanks, I'll look into this. Agreed, probably spambots.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 18:22, 29 November 2012 (MST) | ||
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| + | ==Disgruntled street beast owner== | ||
| + | Jon, I'll let you deal w/this however you see fit: http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:41willys&rcid=32499--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 20:50, 25 January 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | :Saw that. Didn't want to even touch it.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 18:39, 26 January 2013 (MST) | ||
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| + | ==Seemingly unable to block user== | ||
| + | The user [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Showbizg&action=edit&redlink=1 here] has been blocked by both user name AND various addresses but continues to come back seemingly at will to spam. What can be done that I'm not doing to get rid of this user?--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 14:32, 16 February 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | :Very strange. I'll look into this. --[[User:Jon|Jon]] 17:04, 16 February 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | ::I think I'm seeing what's happening. It looks like Showbizg was effectively blocked. But other spammers are coming back solely to edit Showbizg's user page. Is that correct? If so, one option might be to just blank that user page, and then protect it.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 02:30, 17 February 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | :::Thanks, I'll give it a try.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 11:00, 17 February 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | ::::Just had another revision (or whatever) of this user page. The protection log is: http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Showbizg&action=protect | ||
| + | ::::I have again protected the page (second time). Other details can be seen on the Recent changes page.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 11:11, 1 March 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | :::::Third time. It seems protecting the page (at least how I'm doing it) has no effect.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 15:28, 5 March 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | ::::::OK, thanks, I just re-created the page, and re-protected it. Let's see if that does it.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 18:01, 5 March 2013 (MST) | ||
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| + | ==Edits loading quicker== | ||
| + | Seems we're back to the way it was before edits became so painfully slow to load. I've made note of this on the '''[[Wiki updates]]''' page.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 06:40, 8 April 2013 (MDT) | ||
| + | :OK, thanks, I'll look into this.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 12:59, 8 April 2013 (MDT) | ||
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| + | ==Huge increase in new user spam== | ||
| + | I was concerned this might happen. Fortunately they seem to have one common IP address...--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 19:43, 19 April 2013 (MDT) | ||
| + | :Spam continuing. Not from just one or two IPs anymore, they're now coming from many IPs. Blocking the user names and all the IPs is becoming a bit of a problem.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 16:56, 28 April 2013 (MDT). | ||
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| + | ==Spam== | ||
| + | On a daily basis I have been removing a large amount of spam and blocking the users. I took a short break (approximately 60 hours) from deleting the spam here at the CC wiki, when I came back there were over 200 deletions and an additional 180 users to be blocked that needed to be done. This took several hours. Since I am not in a position to implement any procedures to prevent spam from entering the wiki, I am requesting that something more be done to prevent it as my time is better spent on other pursuits (both here and elsewhere).--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 20:36, 22 November 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | :Thanks Cobalt327; I'm going to bring this issue up with Helena, and hopefully we can get some new anti-spam features installed.--[[User:Jon|Jon]] 11:08, 23 November 2013 (MST) | ||
| + | ::Even a way to expedite the blocking of users where more than one at a time could be processed would be a big help. Same for deleting pages, although either or both may be impractical if not impossible to do from a programming/software standpoint. Had nearly '''[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/File:Wiki_12-02-13_deletions_and_blocked_users.jpg 500 deletions and 350 blocked users]''' to process on 12-02-13 after returning from a short break from the wiki- and there's still nearly 14 hours left in the day (EST here).--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 08:34, 2 December 2013 (MST) | ||
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| + | ==Question== | ||
| + | Jon- pls. take a look at the discussion between myself and user 'Centerline' under [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/User_talk:Cobalt327#Article_credits '''Article credits'''] on my user discussion page. Do you have a comment or direction as to how to better handle this? Was considering removing the article or directing Centerline to remove it but stopped short of doing that until I contacted you. Thanks.--[[User:Cobalt327|Cobalt327]] 17:46, 23 February 2016 (MST) | ||
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