Freeing a stuck engine
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==Preface== | ==Preface== | ||
− | Before you get out the sledge hammer and a block of wood and start pounding | + | Before you get out the sledge hammer and a block of wood and start pounding your meat there are a few things to consider. Most importantly: |
*How long has it been since the engine was last turned over? | *How long has it been since the engine was last turned over? | ||
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==Preparation== | ==Preparation== | ||
What you discovered above will lead you to understanding the solution to unsticking the engine. An engine that was in a covered shed, had no visible sign of water infiltration, and was full of oil and coolant- but stuck- is usually an easy fix. The rings, which are cast iron, are usually stuck to the cast iron cylinder walls but only in the cylinders which are open to the atmosphere. If you followed the firing order of the engine, you could determine which are open cylinders and which are closed. You can start by pulling the spark plugs out and inject [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Removing_stuck_fasteners#Some_recommended_penetrating_fluids penetrating oil] with a trigger type oil can.<br> | What you discovered above will lead you to understanding the solution to unsticking the engine. An engine that was in a covered shed, had no visible sign of water infiltration, and was full of oil and coolant- but stuck- is usually an easy fix. The rings, which are cast iron, are usually stuck to the cast iron cylinder walls but only in the cylinders which are open to the atmosphere. If you followed the firing order of the engine, you could determine which are open cylinders and which are closed. You can start by pulling the spark plugs out and inject [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Removing_stuck_fasteners#Some_recommended_penetrating_fluids penetrating oil] with a trigger type oil can.<br> | ||
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− | [[File:MMO gall.png|MMO gall.png | + | Diesel fuel reeks and will leave a foul smell on everything it comes in contact with. For that reason, diesel fuel is not recommended for use unless that is all that's available. Marvel Mystery Oil, PB Blaster, or even kerosene/ATF mixed together are all acceptable. WD 40 or kerosene may work but are not as effective as some of the others fluids mentioned. DO NOT use gasoline or other highly flammable solvents as they do not provide any lubricity, plus they are a respiratory and fire hazard. <br> |
+ | {{Note1}}Some years ago, a machinist's magazine did a [https://duckduckgo.com/?q=machinist+magazine+penetrating+oil controlled (but unscientific) study on penetrating oils], and found that ATF mixed 50/50 with acetone outperformed all other penetrating oils by a wide margin. Be aware that caution should be used when mixing or applying acetone-containing mixtures. Acetone is highly flammable, especially so when suspended in air and should be handled with care. Acetone is also an inhalation hazard. Should you choose to use ATF and acetone, be aware that the two components don't actually mix. They do work together as a suspension though. Therefore you want to agitate/shake/stir the heck out of it before each use for best effect. | ||
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Use plenty of penetrant in each spark plug hole and allow to sit for a few hours. While that's working, (if the engine is in a vehicle) back off on the fan belts, remove the air cleaner and valve covers. Charge up the battery, clean the cables and make sure all electrical connections are tight. Remove the fan shroud if there is one. Get a long breaker bar with the appropriate socket for the front pulley bolt. Remove the coil wire from the distributor/coil. Get some help if you think you need it. | Use plenty of penetrant in each spark plug hole and allow to sit for a few hours. While that's working, (if the engine is in a vehicle) back off on the fan belts, remove the air cleaner and valve covers. Charge up the battery, clean the cables and make sure all electrical connections are tight. Remove the fan shroud if there is one. Get a long breaker bar with the appropriate socket for the front pulley bolt. Remove the coil wire from the distributor/coil. Get some help if you think you need it. | ||
==Breaking the engine loose== | ==Breaking the engine loose== | ||
− | {{Note1}}Using a breaker bar to turn a frozen engine over by the crankshaft bolt is not recommended. The acceptable method involves turning the engine from the flexplate/flywheel, or by using a crankshaft socket that fits over the snout of the crank or bolts to the damper. Exceeding the torque rating of the crank bolt can- and will- snap it off, costing a lot of time and trouble to fix. | + | {{Note1}}Using a breaker bar to turn a frozen engine over by the crankshaft bolt is not recommended. The acceptable method involves turning the engine from the flexplate/flywheel, or by using a crankshaft socket that fits over the snout of the crank or bolts to the damper. Exceeding the torque rating of the crank bolt can - and will - snap it off, costing a lot of time and trouble to fix. |
Below are three tools that can make turning the engine over a much safer operation than using the crank bolt. | Below are three tools that can make turning the engine over a much safer operation than using the crank bolt. | ||
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With the spark plugs out of the engine and a FULLY charged battery, give the starter a one second click and then stop. Observe as you do this if the fan or crank pulley has moved slightly, if the valves have moved, and if the starter is fully engaging into the flywheel. Take the breaker bar and turn the crank pulley back a bit and then hit the starter button again to put some torque on the flywheel. This torque multiplication will move the crank journal a degree or two and will push or pull on the piston which in turn will apply thrust against the rings. All you have to do for the moment is crack the rings loose a thousandth of an inch to allow the penetrating oil to get in between the rings and cylinder walls. | With the spark plugs out of the engine and a FULLY charged battery, give the starter a one second click and then stop. Observe as you do this if the fan or crank pulley has moved slightly, if the valves have moved, and if the starter is fully engaging into the flywheel. Take the breaker bar and turn the crank pulley back a bit and then hit the starter button again to put some torque on the flywheel. This torque multiplication will move the crank journal a degree or two and will push or pull on the piston which in turn will apply thrust against the rings. All you have to do for the moment is crack the rings loose a thousandth of an inch to allow the penetrating oil to get in between the rings and cylinder walls. | ||
− | After allowing the penetrant to settle in for a few minutes to overnight, try to turn the crank in the reverse direction of rotation (CCW as you | + | After allowing the penetrant to settle in for a few minutes to overnight, try to turn the crank in the reverse direction of rotation (CCW as you face the engine looking towards the distributor) to remove the tension on the rings. The penetrant between the ring and the wall will eventually break the ring free from the cylinder wall. It may take a dozen or so tries before all of the stuck rings and bearings are free but with each successive try more fluid will fill the voids until the engine is free to turn. Allow the engine to make two or three revolutions before stopping the exercise. This will allow the excess penetration oil to evacuate itself from the combustion chambers and for some of the oil in the crankcase to move in the system. The engine will now have a new place to rest while the lubrication seeps into the surfaces of the internals. |
− | Many years ago the writer bought a | + | Many years ago the writer bought a van with a stuck engine. The poor aftermarket ignition wiring (the van originally had a diesel engine) had caused the engine to quit. The vehicle had been idle for over a year judging by its tax disc so Plus Gas was introduced into the plug holes daily for over a week. Trying to force the starting handle stripped the thread on the aluminum alloy jaw nut so that method of attack had failed. Fortunately the defective alloy part had been discontinued and replaced with a steel part so the new part was bought and fitted. Unfortunately even when the starting handle had timbers clamped on it for extra leverage the engine could still not be turned! At this point the starter motor was tried but the battery was too weak. A new heavy duty battery was purchased and this succeeded in freeing the engine on the third impact (the current draw was so high that the earth braid smoked!) The engine then fired-up and ran OK and at this point the astonished seller rushed out and said "Are you an electrician or something?" It was a great van and basically all it needed was two weeks of soaking with releasing fluid, a new battery and some attention to the ignition circuit. Engines from boats which have sunk are much more difficult. |
When pistons are stuck really hard, heat, the wood block and the sledgehammer may all fail. Also note that striking the crown of the piston is a very bad idea so ones oak block should be relieved in the middle. If possible obtain some thick-walled steel pipe and machine it to be a clearance fit in the bore. Pressure can now be applied to the edge of the piston where it is needed. If some all-thread can be obtained that will fit the stud holes in the block a hydraulic jack can be rigged-up but the key ingredient is TIME. For example the writer was privileged to be shown a seized vintage oil engine that was about a hundred years old. Its owner had been soaking the piston with red-diesel for a year however he said that he would not be doing any work on the engine until the piston had been soaked for another THREE YEARS but not many people have so much patience. In any case one also needs to consider the three-score-and-ten aspect when undertaking such lengthy tasks. | When pistons are stuck really hard, heat, the wood block and the sledgehammer may all fail. Also note that striking the crown of the piston is a very bad idea so ones oak block should be relieved in the middle. If possible obtain some thick-walled steel pipe and machine it to be a clearance fit in the bore. Pressure can now be applied to the edge of the piston where it is needed. If some all-thread can be obtained that will fit the stud holes in the block a hydraulic jack can be rigged-up but the key ingredient is TIME. For example the writer was privileged to be shown a seized vintage oil engine that was about a hundred years old. Its owner had been soaking the piston with red-diesel for a year however he said that he would not be doing any work on the engine until the piston had been soaked for another THREE YEARS but not many people have so much patience. In any case one also needs to consider the three-score-and-ten aspect when undertaking such lengthy tasks. | ||
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The basics of unsticking any engine are the same. Fill it up with a fluid that will penetrate and lubricate the stuck surfaces. Remove or loosen any accessories that may be frozen up and causing the engine to be harder to turn over. Usually just loosening the belts will help with this. | The basics of unsticking any engine are the same. Fill it up with a fluid that will penetrate and lubricate the stuck surfaces. Remove or loosen any accessories that may be frozen up and causing the engine to be harder to turn over. Usually just loosening the belts will help with this. | ||
− | Start by turning the crank, even a small amount will- over time and with repetition- cause it to break loose. Or | + | Start by turning the crank, even a small amount will - over time and with repetition - cause it to break loose. Or it will tell you that the engine is well and truly frozen up and needs to be disassembled for a proper rebuild. Even a degree of movement or a thousandths of an inch is a start in moving the engine's reciprocating assembly. Allow time for the penetrant to work and don't get impatient. |
===Using penetrating fluids=== | ===Using penetrating fluids=== | ||
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Know what metal that you are working with and apply the correct solution to get the best result. Most metals will form what is known as an oxide, where oxygen from the air mixes on the surface with the base metal. We do know that when these oxides dry out they are usually hard to remove by any means other than mechanical (sanding or wire brush/wheel, sand/bead blasting). | Know what metal that you are working with and apply the correct solution to get the best result. Most metals will form what is known as an oxide, where oxygen from the air mixes on the surface with the base metal. We do know that when these oxides dry out they are usually hard to remove by any means other than mechanical (sanding or wire brush/wheel, sand/bead blasting). | ||
− | We know that steel or iron will rust. Aluminum will form a white powdery residue (aluminum oxide, or aluminum 'rust) and may form a dark grey to almost black coating caused by the oxidation of the metal. Brass and copper will be covered with a green corrosion. Each condition will | + | We know that steel or iron will rust. Aluminum will form a white powdery residue (aluminum oxide, or aluminum 'rust) and may form a dark grey to almost black coating caused by the oxidation of the metal. Brass and copper will be covered with a green corrosion. Each condition will require a different approach in most cases. |
Heat is an excellent tool for unsticking things, but only when used in moderation. Would hitting a stuck piston help it to move? The answer is, yes and no. If you apply enough force in the proper direction, yes it would help. If you just wound up and smacked it dead center with a ball peen hammer, you would probably just put a hole in it and it would still remain stuck. The better way to approach this when you have a stuck engine would be this way: | Heat is an excellent tool for unsticking things, but only when used in moderation. Would hitting a stuck piston help it to move? The answer is, yes and no. If you apply enough force in the proper direction, yes it would help. If you just wound up and smacked it dead center with a ball peen hammer, you would probably just put a hole in it and it would still remain stuck. The better way to approach this when you have a stuck engine would be this way: | ||
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*Break the engine down until you find that part or combination of parts. | *Break the engine down until you find that part or combination of parts. | ||
*It would be a hell of a waste if we just gave up on an engine just because it wouldn't turn over. How about turning it back? Could we have just dropped a valve on the piston and it's stuck there? | *It would be a hell of a waste if we just gave up on an engine just because it wouldn't turn over. How about turning it back? Could we have just dropped a valve on the piston and it's stuck there? | ||
− | *Remove non-essential accessories that aren't required to make the engine rotate. That means that you can loosen the belts | + | *Remove non-essential accessories that aren't required to make the engine rotate. That means that you can loosen the belts or remove the alternator, water pump, intake and exhaust manifolds, distributor, heads, oil pan, etc. Get it down to where you can have a good look around and see where the problem area lies. |
− | *Keep the engine in a secure holding device. If it's the frame of the car or truck, that's good. If the engine is loose, find a way to hold it down. Remember, the tensile strength of steel is greater than wood. And if one bolt is good, a half a dozen would be better. If using an engine stand, use caution that it doesn't tip. | + | *Keep the engine in a secure holding device. If it's the frame of the car or truck, that's good. If the engine is loose, find a way to hold it down. Remember, the tensile strength of steel is greater than wood. And if one bolt is good, a half a dozen would be better. If using an engine stand, use caution that it doesn't tip. A light-duty three wheeled engine stand won't do it if a long breaker bar is going to be used to turn the crank. |
*Flood the engine block with the fluid of your choice. Turn it upside down and fill the block, and plug holes as necessary. This is just a pre-lube stage. | *Flood the engine block with the fluid of your choice. Turn it upside down and fill the block, and plug holes as necessary. This is just a pre-lube stage. | ||
− | *Using an oak block and a dead blow hammer of your choice, SHOCK each piston with a few blows. | + | *Using an oak block and a dead blow hammer of your choice, SHOCK each piston with a few blows. An air chisel with a flat bit and an oak block like the mushroom end of an axe handle works well. Remember you are just trying to loosen the rings, NOT move the piston. Just let the bit vibrate the oak block and piston. When the rings break free you will see your lube run past them into the block. Any piston which is at TDC or BDC will not give you any mechanical advantage in rotating the assembly by hitting it. The initial strike is to just loosen the rings in the piston lands and break the rings free from the walls of the cylinder. Pistons that are in between TDC and BDC will provide the best opportunity to move within the bore. |
− | *There are two places in which you can apply rotational force | + | *There are two places in which you can apply rotational force; the crank pulley and the flywheel. Use whichever is accessible with the least effort. Do not use pulleys or the outside ring of balancers to turn over the engine if at all possible. Don't use the balancer bolt, either. Damper/balancers can be damaged and the damper bolt will strip if excessive torque is applied. Instead, the safest/easiest way to turn the crank is to use a tool that allows a large ratchet or breaker bar to be used, like the crank turning devices shown below. Both sockets that use the crank key, and adapters that bolt to the inner hub of the damper are made for turning the crank. Crank keys and keyways can shear with abnormal force. Be sure of the bolt grades before applying force. Remember to try to rock the crank CW and CCW. |
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Once the drive wheel rotates several revolutions, pull the vehicle in high gear several miles with all the plugs removed. This is probably not necessary but it gets everything well lubricated. | Once the drive wheel rotates several revolutions, pull the vehicle in high gear several miles with all the plugs removed. This is probably not necessary but it gets everything well lubricated. | ||
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+ | I have used in the past brake fluid and ATF mixture. I generally coat the cylinders each day and try to turn engine. Generally after a few days I can usually free up a stuck or seized engine. This is the method we use in the Junk yard. We have access to free lubricants. | ||
==Resources== | ==Resources== |