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| | ===Various commercial rust encapsulators and rust removers (need to be sorted)=== | | ===Various commercial rust encapsulators and rust removers (need to be sorted)=== |
| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=16408&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=373&iSubCat=374&iProductID=16408 Eastwood Rust Encapsulator] | + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=16408 |
| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1117&itemType=PRODUCT Eastwood Heavy-Duty Anti-Rust]
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| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=258&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C458%2C467%2C473&KickerID=39&KICKER Eastwood Metal Wash]
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| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=15974&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=373&iSubCat=374&iProductID=15974 Eastwood Rust Converter] (converts rust to inert black oxide)
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| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1124&itemType=PRODUCT Oxisolv Rust Remover]
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| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=11122&itemType=PRODUCT Eastwood Rust Dissolver]
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| − | *Amchem Metalprep
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| − | *Duro Extend
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| − | *[http://rust007.com/knockout.htm Rust Knockout]
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| − | *[http://rust007.com/destroyerhome.htm Rust Destroyer]
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| − | *Rust-Mort
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| − | *[http://www.corroless.com/ Corroless]
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| − | *[http://www.zerorust.com/ Zero Rust]
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| − | *Rust Reformer
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| − | *[http://www.ospho.com/ Ospho]
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| − | *Oxisolve
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| − | *DuPont Metal Conditioner
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| − | *PPG Metal Prep
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| − | *DuPont Vari-Prime
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| − | *Recommended body filler is All-Metal. Thought to be more moisture-resistant.
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| − | (are some rust "converters" really just muriatic acid?)
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| − | ===Treating rusted body panels===
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| − | First, rust must be removed: chemicals, blasting, sanding, or cutting it out and replacing with fresh metal. If you can't completely remove it, you'll need to use a rust converter or a rust encapsulator.
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| − | With converters and encapsulator, be sure to treat rust from both sides of the panel.
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| − | *Why do older cars rust more quickly? Theories are:
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| − | **Cars are more aggressively coated these days. Galvanizing (explain).
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| − | **Steel used in cars is of a higher quality these days.
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| − | **More salt is used on roads these days.
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| − | *What grit sandpaper to use when removing rust from body panels?
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| − | *Holes must be cut out, and new metal welded in.
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| − | *To remove rust, wire brush, or wire wheel the area.
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| − | *POR-15 is largely considered a "duct tape fix" or a "git-er-done" solution. It may be OK for the home hobbyist, but it's not considered the "right way" or the "professional way" to handle rust.
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| − | *Brands: POR-15, Zero Rust, Eastwood Rust Encapsulator. These are NOT rust "converters", they don't alter rust, etc. There is a common misconseption that the ones listed are converters, but that is in fact false. They are a coating intended to seal out air and moisture.
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| − | *Another argument against rust "treatments" is that many of them require the surface to be lightly rusted first. "Inducing" rust seems wrong to people.
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| − | *Rust-protection products can either act as a coating, or as a sacrificial anode (explain).
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| − | *If POR-15 and similar products have a "lifetime warranty", explain how guarantees like that don't involve labor costs, losses, or other related costs.
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| − | *One recommendation is: after sandblasting, remove some more of the surface metal by sanding with sandpaper. This is done to remove the salt, sand, moisture, etc. from the surface.
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| − | *After preparing panels, coating them with epoxy primer is recommended.
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| − | *Phosphoric acid or muriatic acid are recommended as well.
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| − | *Rust forms so quickly that if you are sand blasting, media blasting, etc., the surface rust will begin to form before you finish the job.
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| − | *Molasses is thought to work, but takes a while. 1 part molasses to 10 parts water.
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| − | *To remove rust: Comet/Ajax with Scotch-Brites, and then muriatic acid with scotch-brites, and then rinse and wash with Comet/Ajax again to neutralize the acid.
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| − | *POR-15 is a three-step process: degreaser, then metal prep, then POR-15 paint. (verify this).
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| − | Links to review: http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/novdec98/laboratory.htm , http://www2.sherwin-williams.com/im/cs/cs-spring2003/feature-01.asp .
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| − | ==References==
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| − | *[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/rust-what-acceptable-permanent-ways-get-rid-47303.html Acceptable ways to handle rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', September 7, 2004.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-pits-39.html Rust pits], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', November 27, 2001.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rustbusters-good-bad-40.html Rustbusters: good or bad?], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', December 4, 2001.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-70.html Rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', January 26, 2002.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-210.html Rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', June 15, 2002.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/pitted-rust-280.html Pitted Rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', July 26, 2002.
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| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1476&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=688&iSubCat=1476 Treating rusted body panels] ''Eastwood Company''.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/how-do-i-address-rust-404.html How do I address rust?], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 7, 2002.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-spot-406.html Rust spot], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 7, 2002.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/completely-covered-surface-rust-help-458.html Completely covered with surface rust...help], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 24, 2002.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/d-sanders-rust-461.html D/A sanders and rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 25, 2002.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/chrome-wheels-rust-634.html Chrome wheels rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', December 9, 2002.
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| − | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/filling-up-holes-body-including-rust-holes-648.html Filling up holes in body, including rust holes], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', December 12, 2002.
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