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===Various commercial rust encapsulators and rust removers (need to be sorted)=== | ===Various commercial rust encapsulators and rust removers (need to be sorted)=== | ||
| − | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=16408 | + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=16408&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=373&iSubCat=374&iProductID=16408 Eastwood Rust Encapsulator] |
| + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1117&itemType=PRODUCT Eastwood Heavy-Duty Anti-Rust] | ||
| + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=258&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C458%2C467%2C473&KickerID=39&KICKER Eastwood Metal Wash] | ||
| + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=15974&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=373&iSubCat=374&iProductID=15974 Eastwood Rust Converter] (converts rust to inert black oxide) | ||
| + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1124&itemType=PRODUCT Oxisolv Rust Remover] | ||
| + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=11122&itemType=PRODUCT Eastwood Rust Dissolver] | ||
| + | *Amchem Metalprep | ||
| + | *Duro Extend | ||
| + | *[http://rust007.com/knockout.htm Rust Knockout] | ||
| + | *[http://rust007.com/destroyerhome.htm Rust Destroyer] | ||
| + | *Rust-Mort | ||
| + | *[http://www.corroless.com/ Corroless] | ||
| + | *[http://www.zerorust.com/ Zero Rust] | ||
| + | *Rust Reformer | ||
| + | *[http://www.ospho.com/ Ospho] | ||
| + | *Oxisolve | ||
| + | *DuPont Metal Conditioner | ||
| + | *PPG Metal Prep | ||
| + | *DuPont Vari-Prime | ||
| + | *Recommended body filler is All-Metal. Thought to be more moisture-resistant. | ||
| + | (are some rust "converters" really just muriatic acid?) | ||
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| + | ===Treating rusted body panels=== | ||
| + | First, rust must be removed: chemicals, blasting, sanding, or cutting it out and replacing with fresh metal. If you can't completely remove it, you'll need to use a rust converter or a rust encapsulator. | ||
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| + | With converters and encapsulator, be sure to treat rust from both sides of the panel. | ||
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| + | *Why do older cars rust more quickly? Theories are: | ||
| + | **Cars are more aggressively coated these days. Galvanizing (explain). | ||
| + | **Steel used in cars is of a higher quality these days. | ||
| + | **More salt is used on roads these days. | ||
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| + | *What grit sandpaper to use when removing rust from body panels? | ||
| + | *Holes must be cut out, and new metal welded in. | ||
| + | *To remove rust, wire brush, or wire wheel the area. | ||
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| + | *POR-15 is largely considered a "duct tape fix" or a "git-er-done" solution. It may be OK for the home hobbyist, but it's not considered the "right way" or the "professional way" to handle rust. | ||
| + | *Brands: POR-15, Zero Rust, Eastwood Rust Encapsulator. These are NOT rust "converters", they don't alter rust, etc. There is a common misconseption that the ones listed are converters, but that is in fact false. They are a coating intended to seal out air and moisture. | ||
| + | *Another argument against rust "treatments" is that many of them require the surface to be lightly rusted first. "Inducing" rust seems wrong to people. | ||
| + | *Rust-protection products can either act as a coating, or as a sacrificial anode (explain). | ||
| + | *If POR-15 and similar products have a "lifetime warranty", explain how guarantees like that don't involve labor costs, losses, or other related costs. | ||
| + | *One recommendation is: after sandblasting, remove some more of the surface metal by sanding with sandpaper. This is done to remove the salt, sand, moisture, etc. from the surface. | ||
| + | *After preparing panels, coating them with epoxy primer is recommended. | ||
| + | *Phosphoric acid or muriatic acid are recommended as well. | ||
| + | *Rust forms so quickly that if you are sand blasting, media blasting, etc., the surface rust will begin to form before you finish the job. | ||
| + | *Molasses is thought to work, but takes a while. 1 part molasses to 10 parts water. | ||
| + | *To remove rust: Comet/Ajax with Scotch-Brites, and then muriatic acid with scotch-brites, and then rinse and wash with Comet/Ajax again to neutralize the acid. | ||
| + | *POR-15 is a three-step process: degreaser, then metal prep, then POR-15 paint. (verify this). | ||
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| + | Links to review: http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/novdec98/laboratory.htm , http://www2.sherwin-williams.com/im/cs/cs-spring2003/feature-01.asp . | ||
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| + | ==References== | ||
| + | *[http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/rust-what-acceptable-permanent-ways-get-rid-47303.html Acceptable ways to handle rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', September 7, 2004. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-pits-39.html Rust pits], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', November 27, 2001. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rustbusters-good-bad-40.html Rustbusters: good or bad?], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', December 4, 2001. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-70.html Rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', January 26, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-210.html Rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', June 15, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/pitted-rust-280.html Pitted Rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', July 26, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1476&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=688&iSubCat=1476 Treating rusted body panels] ''Eastwood Company''. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/how-do-i-address-rust-404.html How do I address rust?], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 7, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/rust-spot-406.html Rust spot], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 7, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/completely-covered-surface-rust-help-458.html Completely covered with surface rust...help], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 24, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/d-sanders-rust-461.html D/A sanders and rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', October 25, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/chrome-wheels-rust-634.html Chrome wheels rust], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', December 9, 2002. | ||
| + | *[http://hotrodders.com/forum/filling-up-holes-body-including-rust-holes-648.html Filling up holes in body, including rust holes], ''Hotrodders Bulletin Board'', December 12, 2002. | ||
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